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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: I appreciate that Ms Stapleton but is it not the case that in the decades when we were able to deliver large numbers of houses through local authorities that the local authorities had more latitude and autonomy? The councillors, who are the local authorities in those areas, from my experience the councillors from all parties - because there is pressure on them locally - will try to get homes...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: Is it not the case overall, Mr. Doyle, that there is a point that is being missed in terms of freeing up local authorities and to trust them to be able to build?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: Look at the figures.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: There were 1,666 houses-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: -----built by local authorities last year. That is terrible.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: Four local authorities built none.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: I ask Mr. Doyle to make another list, a new year's resolution.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: I would ask Mr. Doyle to come up with another 15.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: I would ask Mr. Doyle to come up with another 15.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: I am saying this seriously.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: Can I move on to the spend for a second and the targets? The quarter 2 figures show that on the affordable housing scheme there were just 22 actual affordable homes provided in the first six months. The quarter 3 figures that came out yesterday show 262 affordable homes were provided in the State in the first three quarters of this year. I will do a quick calculation. That is roughly 7%....

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: Does Mr. Doyle mean to tell me that he is going to come up with 93%-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: Hold on, let me finish. Expecting 93% in the last three months of this year is the same as me hoping for Santa Claus to come.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: I am talking about affordable homes. The first home scheme is a loan with a tax rebate that-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: I am talking about builds of affordable homes.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: A lot of that would be inflation, which is fair enough, but the big-ticket item from last year's expenditure is that there is under-expenditure right across the programmes. Owing to that, there is an overspend in housing. The outturn turned out to be €50 million more than anticipated. What was budgeted for was €50 million more. There was €193 million allocated and the...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: Some of them involve leasing. A lot of them are welcome, which I accept, but the big fall-down concerns the provision of local authority housing. I am easy about how it is provided, whether it is by AHBs, turnkey arrangements or otherwise, but the big failure is in addressing the capacity of the 31 local authorities. The Department has a substantial staff and a big budget but is not...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: Will Mr. Doyle include an up-to-date report on what is happening with The Limekiln in Clogh, County Laois? Related to the point Deputy Burke made, this is a fairly significant problem. It is a small estate. A reed bed system was put in. It was totally sustainable. It is working and there have been no problems. It is heading towards the end of its second decade in operation but for some...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 34 - Housing, Local Government and Heritage - Programme A - Housing
Financial Statements 2022 - The Housing Agency
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 11 - Utilisation of the Land Aggregation Scheme Sites
(14 Dec 2023)

Brian Stanley: I raised it but I want an up-to-date report. Somebody at Mr. Doyle’s level needs to make a call on Irish Water. The Department has the two arms of the State involved, namely, Irish Water and the housing programme, and Mr. Doyle can make a call on it.

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