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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: My time is, unfortunately, expiring. At this point, are there any significant concerns that arose from the inspection by Dublin Fire Brigade that Ms Hayes talked about?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: How many properties required remediation works?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: Was that 20% of all operators?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: A total of 20% of all operators were identified as needing some remedial construction works.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: They have all been closed as individual cases. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: Was there resistance from the sector? Was there more resistance from public or private operators? Ms Hayes spoke about a different culture. Would she like to comment further on that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: The last point I will make is that there was significant concern around the origin of people in the context of homelessness. The Minister made a very clear commitment that people's point of origin would not be something that barred them from accessing emergency accommodation. Could Ms Hayes restate the DRHE's commitment to that? I ask her to verify that, regardless of where people who...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: Yes, but they are not kept on the street in order to satisfy those concerns.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: Perhaps Senator Cummins can expand on it in the next slot. From the Independent Group, I call Senator Boyhan.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: One of the concerns we had about the provision of emergency accommodation related to NQSF standards for public and private accommodation. Under recommendation 11, Ms Hayes talked about a process, but I did not think there was a timeline for the establishment of an NQSF for private operators. Is it possible to put a timeline on that now?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: There appear to be two sets of standards for two different types of providers. Will they be broadly similar? Will there be a difference between public and private? This committee is of the view that they should not be different and the same standards should apply regardless of who operates a service.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: I will allow Ms Timmons to clarify the point as it is important and then we will move on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: Of course.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: Perhaps we allow the time and we can go on to discuss it with other speakers. Ms Tobin may wish to finish the answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: I thank Ms Tobin and call Senator Fitzpatrick.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: To indicate where we are, we have two party slots with no representatives here. We then have a Fianna Fáil and a Fine Gael slot. That will complete the cycle and I propose we then go to those still in the room. I have indications from Deputies Ó Broin, Cian O'Callaghan, Andrews and Senator Fitzpatrick. We will divide the remaining time between them after the cycle is complete....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: I suppose the category that most comes to mind is people experiencing family breakdown. For example, a middle-aged man or woman with young children may just not feel safe going into emergency accommodation. He or she could be staying with a brother or his or her mother and therefore would find it very difficult to access the housing market. We know that homeless HAP is one of the key ways...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: I accept Ms Hayes's answer. I suppose the question is not whether someone has alternative accommodation. On a short-term basis, many people can access some accommodation but it is not a sustainable or long-term option. It is called sofa-surfing for a reason. The real difficulty in cases of marital breakdown is that what often happens is the parent who does not have primary custody is...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: I must cut off my contribution at this point. The final speaker in the full round is Deputy Higgins.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Interim Report on Homelessness: Discussion (8 Feb 2022)

Paul McAuliffe: The four remaining speakers, Senator Fitzpatrick, Deputy Ó Broin, Deputy Cian O'Callaghan and Deputy Andrews, will have four minutes each.

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