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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 37 - Social Protection
Social Insurance Fund 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 13 - Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 14 - Ex gratia Payments of €1.4 million to Social Welfare Branch Managers
Chapter 15 - Raising Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 16 - Recovery of Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 17 - Actuarial Review of the Social Insurance Fund
(18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: What is the average length of time?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 37 - Social Protection
Social Insurance Fund 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 13 - Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 14 - Ex gratia Payments of €1.4 million to Social Welfare Branch Managers
Chapter 15 - Raising Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 16 - Recovery of Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 17 - Actuarial Review of the Social Insurance Fund
(18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: That can work the other way too, where sometimes that risk can be urgent.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 37 - Social Protection
Social Insurance Fund 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 13 - Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 14 - Ex gratia Payments of €1.4 million to Social Welfare Branch Managers
Chapter 15 - Raising Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 16 - Recovery of Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 17 - Actuarial Review of the Social Insurance Fund
(18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: The payments are administered by the community welfare officer. I know I raised this with the witnesses before but I am going to do it again. Mr. McKeon said 20% are online. Some 80% are not online. Sometimes, the people who are most vulnerable are the people who are not online. I think we would accept that. The term "community welfare officer" tells me it is somebody who is in the...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 37 - Social Protection
Social Insurance Fund 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 13 - Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 14 - Ex gratia Payments of €1.4 million to Social Welfare Branch Managers
Chapter 15 - Raising Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 16 - Recovery of Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 17 - Actuarial Review of the Social Insurance Fund
(18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: I wish to ask for clarity. Regarding the branch offices that are contracted, are some of those Intreo offices?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 37 - Social Protection
Social Insurance Fund 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 13 - Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 14 - Ex gratia Payments of €1.4 million to Social Welfare Branch Managers
Chapter 15 - Raising Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 16 - Recovery of Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 17 - Actuarial Review of the Social Insurance Fund
(18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: For example, Rathdowney, Portarlington and Portlaoise are contracted offices, so there is no community welfare dimension in those unless there is accommodation.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 37 - Social Protection
Social Insurance Fund 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 13 - Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 14 - Ex gratia Payments of €1.4 million to Social Welfare Branch Managers
Chapter 15 - Raising Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 16 - Recovery of Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 17 - Actuarial Review of the Social Insurance Fund
(18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: I acknowledge the importance of that and the work being done in those offices; it is amazing.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 37 - Social Protection
Social Insurance Fund 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 13 - Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 14 - Ex gratia Payments of €1.4 million to Social Welfare Branch Managers
Chapter 15 - Raising Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 16 - Recovery of Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 17 - Actuarial Review of the Social Insurance Fund
(18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: The three branch offices do phenomenal work. You would not fault them. I return to the issue around CWOs. The outreach services should be kept under review. Looking at a geographical area – forgive me for being parochial about this – let us take Graiguecullen for example. It is nearly 30 miles from Portlaoise. There is Ballylynan and places such as that, or let us take a...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 37 - Social Protection
Social Insurance Fund 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 13 - Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 14 - Ex gratia Payments of €1.4 million to Social Welfare Branch Managers
Chapter 15 - Raising Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 16 - Recovery of Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 17 - Actuarial Review of the Social Insurance Fund
(18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: Where is the Intreo office in Laois?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 37 - Social Protection
Social Insurance Fund 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 13 - Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 14 - Ex gratia Payments of €1.4 million to Social Welfare Branch Managers
Chapter 15 - Raising Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 16 - Recovery of Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 17 - Actuarial Review of the Social Insurance Fund
(18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: Which office in County Laois is the Intreo office?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 37 - Social Protection
Social Insurance Fund 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 13 - Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 14 - Ex gratia Payments of €1.4 million to Social Welfare Branch Managers
Chapter 15 - Raising Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 16 - Recovery of Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 17 - Actuarial Review of the Social Insurance Fund
(18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: There is a control office and three branch offices.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 37 - Social Protection
Social Insurance Fund 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 13 - Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 14 - Ex gratia Payments of €1.4 million to Social Welfare Branch Managers
Chapter 15 - Raising Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 16 - Recovery of Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 17 - Actuarial Review of the Social Insurance Fund
(18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: Before Mr. McKeon continues, can he come back to me and clarify in which offices in Laois a community welfare officer is available and when? I just want to sort out the status of those offices because it can be confusing.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 37 - Social Protection
Social Insurance Fund 2022
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2022
Chapter 13 - Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Chapter 14 - Ex gratia Payments of €1.4 million to Social Welfare Branch Managers
Chapter 15 - Raising Social Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 16 - Recovery of Welfare Overpayments
Chapter 17 - Actuarial Review of the Social Insurance Fund
(18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: I ask that the witnesses come back with a note on those branch offices, the services and the CWO. I ask them to send on a note on the difference between a branch office and an Intreo office and their services as well. It would be useful just for our own heads. We have concluded questions. I thank the witnesses and staff at the Department of Social Protection and the Department of public...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: The public business before the committee for this afternoon is as follows: minutes; accounts and financial statements; correspondence; the work programme; and any other business. The minutes of the meeting of 14 December 2023 have been circulated to committee members. Does any member wish to raise any matters arising from the minutes? Are the minutes agreed?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: As usual, the minutes will be published on the committee's webpage. I will move on to accounts and financial statements. Some 19 sets of accounts and financial statements were laid before the Houses of the Oireachtas between 11 December and 12 January. I will ask Mr. Seamus McCarthy, the Comptroller and Auditor General, to address these before opening it to the floor.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: Does any committee member wish to comment on the accounts and financial statements?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: Can we agree the accounts and financial statements?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: As usual, the list of accounts and financial statements will be published as part of our minutes. Moving on to item three, which is correspondence, items that are not flagged for discussion at this meeting will be dealt with in accordance with the proposed actions that have been circulated. Decisions taken by the committee in relation to the correspondence are recorded in the minutes of...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: Deputy James O'Connor, who is not present at this point, flagged this item for discussion. If any other committee member wishes to come in on that, they should feel free to do so. It is item No. R2272B and it deals with the issue of wastewater treatment plants provided by developers that have not been taken in charge and what happens there. There is an update on a number of matters the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: My views on this are well known over the past 14 years and I think the Deputy's are as well. I mean no disrespect to the people in Uisce Éireann but I think this was a bad day's work. The reason given at the time was that cross-county infrastructure has been dealt with very simply to date by way of memorandums of understanding between local authorities, but it could also have been...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (18 Jan 2024)

Brian Stanley: I thank the Deputy. No. 2288B, from Ms Fiona Ross, group chair of CIÉ, dated 19 December, provides information requested by the committee on the CIÉ pension scheme. I propose we note and publish the item. Is that agreed? Agreed. I flagged the item for discussion becuase this is a public body with a pension scheme and the population at large would think a pension scheme at...

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