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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: The Department had 64 contracts with non-compliance issues in the context of procurement for 2021, to the value of €3.8 million. Has that been rectified?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Has it been rectified?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Does Mr. Gleeson have a figure for 2022?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is the figure significantly reduced?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: We will check that. On what basis has the Department come to the conclusion that sheep farmers should not be included in the Brexit adjustment reserve, BAR, fund?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: As someone who drew lambs for 20 years, I am also fairly close to the sheep sector.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is Mr. Gleeson telling me that because sheep farmers are supported under other schemes, and despite being affected by Brexit, they are not eligible for the BAR?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: It is not difficult to make that argument if one is a sheep farmer. The reduction that sheep farmers are looking at based on the flooding of markets, particularly when sterling weakened, would have seen them receive approximately €50 less per head in some instances.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: That is not the point. Mr. Gleeson is probably right in that but the point is that sheep from the UK flooded the market on which we are dependent, that is, the French market, at a time when sterling weakened, thereby devaluing our lamb. That is the issue. It is not that we are dependent on the UK market. I can see that. I am a farmer's daughter. I drew sheep for 20 years as a haulier....

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is that a "Yes" or a "No"?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Would Mr. Gleeson consider a review for that sector? No matter what we do, it is a dwindling sector. I understand it is only worth €500 million in the economy but it provides a significant livelihood for many farmers. We are in a position where we are importing lambs, legitimately, it appears, to slaughter in our factories. I understand the commercial reality and there are times of...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: No, I am only asking-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is that a "No"? Do I need to ask the Minister?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Do I need to ask the Minister?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I have a quick but important question about the trade control and expert system, TRACES. Has the Department undertaken any reviews into its operation since Brexit occurred and the inception of TRACES?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I am absolutely not.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I will give Dr. Fanning the basis of my question. There seems to be an awful lot of friction in particular areas between Revenue and the Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine when it comes to recognising who should be inspecting goods. There does not seem to be a lot of communication between them, and I am blaming nobody for that, but the consequence is time delay, which costs...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I do not disagree and I am not looking to admonish anybody. There are complaints, all the same.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: A superb facility has been built in Rosslare and it is under-utilised. I wish the Office of Public Works, OPW, would consider it for parking but that is another day's work and nothing to do with our witnesses.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: There has been a huge impact on small indigenous sectors which have had to comply with the effect of Brexit, while our counterparts, who effectively caused the problem, have got away scot-free to date. Regulatory authorities and organisations must understand that and be somewhat sympathetic when it comes to the suffering of our indigenous sectors. I refer to agriculture, fisheries and...

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