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Ceisteanna ar Sonraíodh Uain Dóibh - Priority Questions: Ports Policy (4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Far be it for me to tell any Deputy how to do their job, but I have been saying for nigh on eight years that the expansion of Dublin Port is an absolute scandal. Dublin Port is overdeveloped. The reconfiguring for Brexit made the port a total disaster from a movement perspective. From the EPA's perspective, it is already overdeveloped on the basis of expanding the most NOx emissions this...

Ceisteanna ar Sonraíodh Uain Dóibh - Priority Questions: Ports Policy (4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I do not mean to sound condescending but I have expertise in the area of over 30 years. I will say it again. The M50 is the most congested road in this country. The European model is for an outer ring road to be built. Every major city in Europe with a dense population - not just capital cities - has an outer ring road or relief road for what we call the M50. I leave home at 5 a.m. and...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I thank the witnesses for coming in. I have so many questions, I could probably use up all the time by myself. I will have to leave the meeting at 10.30 a.m. but I will return. Who sets targets for the forestry programme?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is that based on advice from the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is it primarily based on the advice of the Department? I mean no disrespect to Ministers but I am sure that, primarily, most of them do not have a clue about forestry. They get appointed to a ministry and fit into the role. Who is responsible for setting the targets?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: What happens in terms of monetary fines if the targets are not met? Are there such fines?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: They are nothing to do with EU targets.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: In the event that the targets are not met, there is a significant shortfall in carbon emission reductions. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I am looking for answers in plain English. Is Mr. Gleeson saying that if we do not meet forestry targets, the cattle herd will take up the slack and those numbers will be further reduced to compensate for not meeting-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: When you say there is a requirement, to whom-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: How is carbon sequestering measured?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I ask him to be as brief as he can.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: How is it measured in value in monetary value?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Let us just say all sequestration, not just forestry. There are many ways to sequester carbon besides forestry. What do we have the biggest yield of sequestering from currently?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Is there any offset in relation to peat soils and what we are sequestering and then the importation of wood chip from Brazil in vast quantities? Is there any offset? Does anybody take into consideration where we stop one line - for instance in peat, never mind the wood chip? When we are importing peat to replace what we have stopped harvesting, is there a correlation within the Department...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Are we winning in that regard? Would it be beneficial to us? Would we be seeing benefits by virtue of importing peat now and not harvesting our own? Is there a benefit for the country?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I am just talking about peat.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: To go back to sequestration, who gets the benefit of the carbon sequestered by the farmer?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2021
Vote 30 - Agriculture, Food and the Marine
Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine - 2021 Financial Statements
Fishery Harbour Centres
(4 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: We know there is a court case going on as to who owns the carbon. Leaving that to one side, who currently gets the benefit financially?

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