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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I hope somebody is keeping a list of these.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: This is one of the points I asked about earlier. Again, it is just one of those amendments that seems so eminently sensible. My understanding is that in their development plans local authorities will have policies with respect to e-charging and car parking and, therefore, when applications go in, depending on what is in those individual development plans, conditions could be attached to a...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: The challenge is that we cannot do that. If the Minister of State comes in and proposes an amendment, I cannot ask a bunch of questions and say we will look at that. We are meant to be deciding. We have 1,200 amendments. We are not going to have the same time on Report Stage even if the Government side in the Business Committee is very good to us. I do not want to have to repeat...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Yes. I do not hear the Minister of State giving a case against it, what I hear him say is, "Oh yeah, that is kind of interesting. We'll go and look at that."

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I am ever the optimist.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 16: In page 31, line 24, to delete “ “Maritime Area Regulatory Authority” ” and substitute “ “an tÚdarás Rialála Limistéir Mhuirí” ”. I will withdraw my amendment with a view to reintroducing it.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 17: In page 32, to delete line 11 and substitute the following: “ “Aire” means An tAire Tithíochta, Rialtais Áitiúil agus Oidhreachta;”. I will withdraw the amendment with a view to reintroducing it.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I would like to speak to amendment No. 201 in this group. Deputy Matthews is right that there is probably nobody, certainly in this room, let alone in the Oireachtas, who knows more about the national biodiversity action plan than the Minister of State. While he has not said "No" to the 36 amendments trying to promote and strength the biodiversity elements of this Bill, he has said a kind...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I am sorry but the Minister of State does not believe that. Is he seriously telling me that section 24(1)(g) satisfactorily includes biodiversity? Come on.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: That is why I am asking. It is a very big stretch.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I will make the wider point I was going to make. It is not that I was looking to put words in the Minister of State's mouth but there is such a distance between the text of section 24(1)(g) and Deputy Duffy's amendment and my own that it is factually inaccurate to suggest that it could somehow be accommodated.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: That is slightly different from how the Minister of State phrased it earlier but I take his point. Here is my point. The Minister of State is one of the most vocal advocates for Government action to address the biodiversity crisis. It is one of the great contributions he has made to the Oireachtas since being elected. It is very rare that I compliment a Government Minister of State but it...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: The Minister of State can speak for himself. I suspect I am not wrong. If the Minister of State says I am wrong, I will happily accept his word. He is right that our amendments are piecemeal. This is the first opportunity we have had to table them but at least we have gone and tabled them. At least we are attempting to strengthen the way in which this Bill and the planning system impacts...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I will make one quick supplementary point. I welcome the Minister of State putting that on the record.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Let us be very clear. The only way planners are going to be able to comply with that duty under the biodiversity action plan is if we set out very clearly how they are to do so. Some of that will be in legislation, guidelines and so on. The same point as was made in the conversation we had yesterday on section 52 guidelines and the national planning framework will have to apply. It is all...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Not necessarily.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: It is 5 p.m. and the officials have to eat before the next session.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (14 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: In fairness to the staff and officials - and I have no difficulty staying here all night - if we go another ten minutes we still have to break for an hour. Folks here have to eat. If people are happy with that then I have no issue with it.

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