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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Apologies for cutting across the Minister. I have a couple of points. That would be the first thing that would be useful. Second, I fully accept that you cannot list every organisation. That is obviously why the provision on subsection (3)(j) is there but there is a big difference between being in the guidelines and being in the prescribed list in the sense that the prescribed list is...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I will ask one very quick supplementary question about that as what the Minister said is clear. The text on page 114, in section (3)(g), lists "any local community development committee [the LCDCs] within the functional area of the planning authority". The LCDCs - I sat on one - are a function of the local authority. They fit within them, albeit they have other mandates. Clearly, although...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: This is just so I understand. While it is not in the list I am looking at, we prescribe such organisations as An Taisce in planning legislation, but it is not a statutory or State body. It is just so I am clear.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: There is a difference between being State funded and being a statutory body.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I am not challenging that; I am welcoming it. So that I understand, the Minister stated that what was unique about the bodies in the lists is that they were statutory bodies. I am saying that An Taisce, which is often a prescribed body in planning legislation, is not a statutory body. It is State funded, but so is Conradh na Gaeilge and the others we listed. It would be helpful to...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: It is not because they are statutory bodies or is it the case that sometimes it is and sometimes it is not?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: What is the exception to the rule that allows An Taisce to be prescribed?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I am not arguing that An Taisce should not be prescribed. It is good that it is. The only thing I will say is this. It is a small point for the Minister to think about.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I understand why they are prescribed, but the Minister's argument was that you have to be careful about these prescriptive lists, that you cannot add additional bodies because you do not want to open the State to judicial review as a result of others not being included. I asked what were the criteria and he said the criterion was that they must be State bodies. It could just be that An...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Sure.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I am not looking for that.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Absolutely not. It is a very good organisation. It is just to understand the logic of why some are in and some are out. I understand why An Taisce is in; it is because it is prescribed in legislation.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: There are four clusters.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: It is a really helpful way of doing it.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: This is really helpful because each day we have been trying to work our way to what is the most efficient way without asking-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Here is the question. We have 63 groupings to get through over whatever period of time. Some of them are quite small groupings but where some of them are larger, if there are clusters, if we knew in advance from the officials to the Cathaoirleach how the Minister was clustering them, we could be a little bit more prepared when we come in. It would be really helpful.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Absolutely.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Just to be clear-----

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Just to be clear, of the remaining 50 groupings, I can only see four or five that are likely to have subclusters. If it was possible, it would speed up the process, which I know the Minister wants to do.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: However, I appreciate the officials are overburdened.

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