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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Professor Mey will find that when we discussed this last year, the nature of the appointment was that there was no recruitment process. Is that a fact? Was there a recruitment process? That is a “Yes” or “No”. Please answer the question. My clock is being run down and all I am asking for is a “Yes” or “No” answer. Was there a...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: The question is this. Was there a recruitment process?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: As president of a university with over 18,500 students, Professor Mey appears to have a difficulty understanding the question I am posing. Was there a recruitment process for the position that was granted to Mr. Flaherty? That is a “Yes” or “No” answer.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: There was a recruitment process.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: There was a recruitment process. Was the position advertised? It is just a “Yes” or “No”.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: On that, there is video evidence from the last committee where this was discussed that there was not a recruitment process undertaken in the way that ordinary and other positions were appointed. Is that not clear?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I think Mr. O'Connor will find that the last time Professor Mey was here, she said that this was not a position that needed to be advertised because it was a reassignment of duties. That was her answer. Has she changed from that? Either she misled us the last day or she is misleading us today.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Professor Mey will find that was discounted in the last report, which we did not see either, which was the McKenna report. Can we see the McKenna report? Can we have it?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: We did not see them so can we have the report? Can the McKenna report be submitted to the committee?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Can we have the McKenna report on the same basis as we had the last report from KPMG?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I do not know why we would have to do that. We have already seen the KPMG report and are aware of the confines within which we are discussing this. Is there an issue with giving us the McKenna report?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Do the issues go above and beyond the issues that arose with regard to the KPMG report?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: This is not Mr. Kelly's first outing. The bottom line here is that we have A, B, C, D, E; it keeps going with the University of Limerick. It just keeps going. Are our guests asking us to compel the McKenna report in the way that we did the KPMG report, thus prolonging the saga, or are they prepared to give it to us, on the basis that we look at it in the same way we looked at the KPMG...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: It is amazing. All I am hearing here is an arse-covering exercise. If the same due diligence had been applied to the process as is now being employed to preventing this committee from receiving reports, when the committee is trying to establish value for money and the appropriate expenditure of taxpayers' money, we would not be discussing this. It is an arse-covering exercise, full stop....

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Did the university employ media consultants to do that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Did our guests employ media consultants to help them to do that? It is well known that people appearing before this committee do that. Did our guests do the same?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I am not going to repeat the fact that what we are getting is just waffle. The question was whether our guests hired a media consultancy company to prepare for today.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: It is incredible that somebody in Professor Mey's position does not understand the question that is being asked. Did our guests hire a media consultancy company in order to prepare for today?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Did that preparation incorporate the use of a media consultancy?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2021: University of Limerick (18 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Who are the consultants?

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