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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 22: In page 34, line 16, to delete “ “Planning Commissioners” ” and substitute “ “Coimisinéirí Pleanála” ”. I with withdraw it but reserve the right to reintroduce it on Report Stage.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 23: In page 34, line 17, to delete “ “Planning Regulator” ” and substitute “ “Rialálaí Pleanála” ”. As with No. 22, I reserve the right to reintroduce amendment No. 23.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: We spent quite a bit of time yesterday and the day before trying to work out what is the best way to proceed with these cumbersome groups. What probably worked best for us was our approach to our discussion of the amendments tabled by the Chair, Deputy Matthews. The Ministers of State outlined in clusters their specific responses to specific groups of amendments. We were then able to have...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I have two points to make. First, from listening to what the Minister's ministerial colleagues and officials have been saying, there is going to be quite a lot of subsequent amending legislation to this Bill, both in the near future and in the long term. This will not be the only area where that might happen. The second point is that I do not understand the logic of the Minister's...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: That is a very helpful way to do it. One of the struggles we have had in the past two days is that we were working from the official groupings when the Minister had these logical groupings. Having sight of this is helpful. If, as the Minister has done, he outlines his groupings and his rationale, we can then respond to that and deal with those in the best way we can. Notwithstanding...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: These amendments have not come out of nowhere. There has been a significant effort by organisations, many of which the Minister knows, including Conradh na Gaeilge, to ensure a Bill that was in real terms blind to the interaction of the planning system and Irish-language speakers and communities would be addressed. Much of our discussion concerns issues those organisations have rightly...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Again, I think the Minister misunderstands the purpose of specific amendments. With respect to the OPR and amendment No. 1130, there is a planning dimension to this, which the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media is not equipped to assess. This is the whole point, and this is why folks like Conradh na Gaeilge have put so much effort into encouraging the...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: On a point of clarification, that is true. However, to go back to the example I gave with respect to Traveller accommodation, it does not just assess all development plans. It has also done a really important report on the failure of local authorities to comply with those aspects of the development plan that relate specifically and exclusively to Traveller-specific accommodation....

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: It is a completely separate function from that of the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media. It is around the plans, planning policy and development, something that the Department cannot do, is not equipped to do and should not be doing. That is a point of clarification.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: A Chathaoirligh, I have a procedural point.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: It might be helpful for us, given that the Minister said he had a number of subgroupings, to hear the numbers listed in those in order that we can manage our time properly.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Perfect.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: As is customary, I suggest we take a five-minute tea break and then go straight into that next grouping.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I have two questions. They are more so that I might understand. To follow the argument about what that then means, let us take a concrete example. Amendment No. 441 relates to section 52 on page 114. Is it that there is something about the list that the Minister has prescribed that is different that makes it less open to the kind of judicial review legal challenge than the types of groups...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (15 Feb 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Sure. Just from our side of the room, it would be really helpful. Essentially, the Minister is saying there is a group of organisations that should be prescribed in the legislation and they are in the legislation. There is a wider group whom there is potential to consult. That is up to the planning authority in line with the regulations. Obviously that means there is some basis for why...

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