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Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: On the 19,741, it was said this has gone up from 7,500 in previous years. Why has there been a sudden increase in this figure to 19,741?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: Was that from any particular countries?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: What are the top three countries in the context of this 19,741? I know Ukraine is the top country, but what other three countries we are talking about?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: In relation to Georgia, my understanding, and I may be wrong about this, is that it is a reasonably stable country. On what grounds can we accept someone coming in from that country, on the basis of it being democratic? I have done election observation in Georgia. While it might have been several years ago, it is a reasonably stable country. I refer to this just as an example of a country...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: From the perspective of Mr. McCarthy's Department, it would be helpful if the Department of Justice processed those applications at a far faster rate.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: I presume there has been ongoing consultation on this issue.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: Over the next six months, is it foreseen that this process will speed up?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: The reason I am looking for the figures concerning the age group under 18 is because there are many people from Ukraine now working here. My understanding, and the last figure I got was somewhere around October, is that around 11,500 or 12,000 people from Ukraine are physically working here. Do we have up-to-date figures in this regard? Once a person gets a job, how does this then affect...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: That is the number in employment.

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: How does that then affect the issue of accommodation? These people are obviously earning money. Are they required to make a contribution towards the cost of accommodation?

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: Turning to Turkey, many people there are now without accommodation. I have been contacted by several families whose members are Irish citizens but who came originally from Turkey. They have family there whom they now want to try to assist. Has there been any discussion with the Department of Justice concerning this issue of people from Turkey who may need temporary accommodation here? I...

Public Accounts Committee: 2021 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth (Resumed)
(16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: I accept that. Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: One of the issues about inquiries is that one may start off by thinking it will last a very short period of time, but the problem is that the costs go way up once the inquiries continue for any length of time at all. That is where the problem is.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: If an inquiry is being conducted where there are individuals who could be adversely affected, then they have legal recourse and are entitled to have the protection of legal representation. This is where the problem then arises. Everyone looks for their own independent legal team. Then the costs start escalating.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: It might be worth looking to know what is done in other jurisdictions. Then again, part of the problem is because of the limited powers that we have as a Committee of Public Accounts. It means that we cannot do a huge level of investigation in real terms.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: And how that can be implemented taking into account constitutional limitations.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: May I raise an issue?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: I raised an issue last week about one particular person who was on to me looking for us to consider correspondence he would send in. I understand there was correspondence received by the office but it is not on our list. In fairness to the office, it was explained to me why it was not on the list.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: Yes. I asked the person to write in on the basis it would be put on the list.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (16 Feb 2023)

Colm Burke: I ask that the letter that was sent in be put on the list for next week.

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