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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: I must just move on if Mr. Doorley does not mind and the Senator can come back later.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: Does Ms Whelan or Mr. Creedon wish to answer any questions?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: Would Mr. Carroll or Mr. Corcoran like to come in?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: I will stop Mr. Carroll there in order that we can take supplementary questions from members, including me. We will come back to the delegates, including Mr. Power.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: We had a recession. As result of the reduced business being done, jobs were not being created, as they would be in a period of growth. The public service contracted, but in other countries staff were just fired. Here there were voluntary redundancies and a recruitment embargo, to which the various stakeholders signed up, albeit reluctantly. There are contradictions in what people say. On...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: I am not talking about the Senator necessarily but this is the discourse.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: What about community employment, Tús, Gateway and JobBridge?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: What is the difference?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: I have to say I disagree. I do not agree that a vet cannot get experience because he or she is too qualified but it is okay for an arts graduate or that one cannot be a cleaner or a waitress in a restaurant.We used to have work experience, but it was ad hoc, non-transparent and, perhaps, based on whom one knew. It might have problems, but JobBridge is transparent. It is a State system and,...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: Yes, I know, but they are a minority. We have quite a small apprenticeship system. An apprentice could be someone working in a bookshop, cleaning or anything as the system covers a raft of things. We have 200 different apprenticeships. It can also cover someone who is a doctor. I was an apprentice solicitor, which I thought was a great idea.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: Why not? I do not care. I do not have a problem with it. Why are some things above it? I just do not agree with the Senator. In case anyone puts a headline on it, I am not saying there should be apprentices, but I do not have this principled stance against it because I do not see why one job is above it and another is not. When one comes out of college one trains and gets experience.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: I know, but at the same time I did not interrupt the Senator.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: Obviously the need for these schemes will reduce, but in general they are good. In other countries employers feel they have a social responsibility. Many employers did this because they thought it was a good thing to do. They wanted to do some good and give people a chance and we must recognise this. This includes people within the public sector. Anything one does stands to one at the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: I know.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: I marked all of the schemes with low take-up, and Gateway stood out as did the back to work enterprise allowance. There is a big push on MOMENTUM and JobsPlus Youth. Why is there a slow take-up of these?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: I know Mr. Power wanted to come back in on that point, so I will start with him and move down the line.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: I will return to Mr. Doorley shortly, but perhaps Ms Whelan would like to speak at this stage.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: I will come back to Mr. Creedon. I will call on Mr. Corcoran from the Department first.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: Will the Department forward up-to-date figures to the clerk to the committee?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Education and Social Protection: JobBridge and the Youth Guarantee: National Youth Council, Ballymun Jobs Centre and Department of Social Protection (4 Nov 2015)

Joanna Tuffy: Was the back to education allowance cut in recent years?

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