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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I would like to see IDA Ireland come before the committee as well.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: In that case, it probably makes more sense to wait. I take Deputy Catherine Murphy's point about compiling a report based on governance of the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board, which I appreciate is probably something we could do before the recess as opposed to IDA Ireland, which we could invite in for September. At the end of the day, we have five full weeks and there is no point in...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I am happy to have the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board come before us in June and for us to hold off getting IDA Ireland in - probably on its own. I think we need it on its own.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I am suggesting we hear from the Irish Horseracing Regulatory Board.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I think it did.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I could not agree more. It would be especially unfortunate if we were accessing the National Treatment Purchase Fund, NTPF, for children. My understanding of Cara Darmody's case is her family paid for a private assessment. They did not locate or find the person to do it, they just paid for it. When the Department of Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth was before us, it...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: And more. That is my point. What the Cathaoirleach was talking about this morning, and what the HSE said, is that the Minister's proposal to staff disability respite services with agency staff was a non-runner because they could not access. This is clearly not a non-runner. There are people who can do these assessments. It is the want for paying for it. We do not need it to go to the...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Six months.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: The reality is that of course, it is not just about the money. The primary reason for the assessment is to get the child into the autism spectrum disorder, ASD unit of the school if required. No teacher can apply on the basis of not having the certificate for the child.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I understand that, but in the school sphere, one cannot apply for the supports for the child if the child has not got a certificate. It is ridiculous, because the teachers are quite capable of assessing. That is the knock-on effect.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: That is what it was. I think the Minister of State, Deputy Rabbitte, is very proactive-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: -----and I think it is a very difficult position for her to be in as the Minister of State.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I think we will ask the question and then move on.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Yes, Chair.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: We are in public session, yes. I have just learned that one of our witnesses from last week has resigned, or at least it is alleged in a media report that he has resigned. What I am more concerned about is that I got a phone call as to why he may have resigned. I asked a specific question of Professor Kerstin Mey about why we had a different panel appearing before us - a panel of witnesses...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: While I do not want to hold everyone up, I have one more point to make.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: If I can add to what Deputy McAuliffe has said, last week, we had the Department of Further and Higher Education, Research, Innovation and Science before us and we learned that it was withdrawing €3.5 million in funding from the University of Limerick and telling it to get its house in order with regard to governance. We then learned that the university had received €750,000 in...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: Yes.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I would like to hear whether the Comptroller and Auditor General has anything to add in that regard because-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (25 May 2023)

Verona Murphy: I do not understand why. That is why I am asking the Comptroller and Auditor General.

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