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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2021: Discussion (20 Oct 2021)

James Lawless: We have not received any apologies today. I welcome our witnesses, who are joining us on the call. I remind members and witnesses to mute their microphones when they are finished speaking so that we do not interfere with each other. I ask participants to switch their mobile phones to flight mode, because they can interrupt the sound recording, which is not always discernible until...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2021: Discussion (20 Oct 2021)

James Lawless: I thank Mr. Collins for that. Next up is Chief Inspector Mark Toland who also has three minutes to make his opening presentation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2021: Discussion (20 Oct 2021)

James Lawless: I thank Mr. Toland for that. I call Ms Ansbro, who also has three minutes to make her presentation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2021: Discussion (20 Oct 2021)

James Lawless: I thank Ms Ansbro. I call Commissioner Harris, who now has the floor. He also has three minutes to make his opening statement.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2021: Discussion (20 Oct 2021)

James Lawless: I invite members to contribute in the order in which they have indicated. Senator Ruane indicated to me at the outset and she will be followed by Deputy Kenny. She has seven minutes for both her questions and the witnesses' responses.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: Business of Joint Committee (20 Oct 2021)

James Lawless: I propose that we go into private session to deal with some housekeeping matters.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2021: Discussion (20 Oct 2021)

James Lawless: I now move to-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2021: Discussion (20 Oct 2021)

James Lawless: You are out of time, Senator, unfortunately, unless you wish to make a brief comment. I can take you again during the second round, of course, as well-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2021: Discussion (20 Oct 2021)

James Lawless: Does the Deputy wish any of our guests in particular to reply?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2021: Discussion (20 Oct 2021)

James Lawless: Sorry, Deputy, I think the point the Commissioner has made, and it is one that I outlined at the start of the meeting, is that unfortunately, due to the hybrid nature of the proceedings, witnesses do not enjoy full parliamentary privilege as they would if they were physically present, which is a limitation of our current environment, but it is where we are. I think the Commissioner could...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2021: Discussion (20 Oct 2021)

James Lawless: That concludes the seven-minute slot for Deputy McNamara. I will move to the next round of questions. So far, two members have indicated that they wish to come in a second time. First is Senator Ruane, followed by Senator Gallagher. If other members wish to contribute again, they are welcome to do so. I will take them in the order in which they indicate they wish to contribute. This...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2021: Discussion (20 Oct 2021)

James Lawless: Does someone else want to comment on that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2021: Discussion (20 Oct 2021)

James Lawless: I thank Mr. Toland. The Commissioner has indicated, if he would like to respond briefly to that query as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2021: Discussion (20 Oct 2021)

James Lawless: I am afraid the Senator is over her time. I let her continue for longer than I should have. I call Senator Robbie Gallagher.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2021: Discussion (20 Oct 2021)

James Lawless: Is the Senator happy with that reply and does that conclude his slot?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2021: Discussion (20 Oct 2021)

James Lawless: I call Deputy Daly, who had indicated that he wishes to come in again.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Justice, Defence and Equality: General Scheme of the Policing, Security and Community Safety Bill 2021: Discussion (20 Oct 2021)

James Lawless: I thank Mr. Toland. Mr. Collins wishes to come in again on this point.

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