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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: We will go to IBEC first as most of the questions were directed at its representatives and then bring in WorkEqual. We may give a little leeway on time on this round because I am conscious that the WorkEqual representatives have not yet got to address domestic violence leave.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: Yes. Dr. McGann may wish to finish her comments.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: We have 45 recommendations from the Citizens' Assembly on Gender Equality that we regard as a blueprint for the achievement of gender equality. Many of the others address cultural issues, stereotyping in education and so on. We have had hearings on those issues. We want to focus very much on pay and workplace conditions and on the experience and expertise each of the organisations before...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: I thank Ms Smith and Ms Lennon. That was very succinct.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: I will ask IBEC to respond first and then SIPTU. I invite IBEC to address the question on equal pay and the mechanism to which Senator Higgins referred.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: Does Ms McGann wish to come in or will I go to SIPTU to address some of the other issues Senator Higgins raised?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: I thank Ms Buckley for those constructive and practical points. I am conscious we have gone well over time in terms of the contribution of Senator Higgins, but I invite Mr. Taft to come in on the specific issue of the minimum wage before we move to a second round.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: I thank Mr. Taft. That is very helpful. As Chair, I will ask a couple of brief questions, if I may. We have covered domestic violence leave extensively. I am disappointed by the tone and language of the IBEC submission, which is not reflective of the compassionate approach being taken by many employers. That is evident from what we know of employers already offering such leave. We have...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: I am conscious representatives for IBEC did not get in, so I will go to them first in the next round of questions.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: I ask WorkEqual to respond. SIPTU may address those points in the next round.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: Will Ms Lennon repeat that statistic, please?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: That is very stark.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: I thank Ms Smith for that helpful contribution. It is good to hear about the programmes being run by WorkEqual, as well as those mentioned by IBEC.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: I thank Senator Higgins. There is a lot there. I ask SIPTU to respond first and then IBEC because the majority of questions were directed at them. We will come to WorkEqual in the next round.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: A key recommendation from our committee is that the referendum be held next year. We will move to IBEC before calling Deputy Cronin.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: Senator, we are tight on time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: I thank Dr. McGann for that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: I thank the Deputy. That is a very practical point to end on. I will ask each of our witnesses to contribute in this final round, beginning with those from IBEC and then proceeding to those from WorkEqual and SIPTU. Ms O'Hare or Dr. McGann may begin by responding to any of the comments.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: That is very interesting. I thank Ms Lennon and ask that she would share those links.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Gender Equality: Recommendations of the Report of the Citizens’ Assembly on Gender Equality: Discussion (Resumed) (6 Oct 2022)

Ivana Bacik: I thank all the witnesses for their very constructive engagement today, for the benefit they have given us, and for their expertise and experience. We very much appreciate their engagement with the committee through the submissions, the opening statements and the exchanges we have had through questions and answers and debate. They have seen just how engaged and committed our committee...

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