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Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I am sorry to interrupt. It was presented to us as a difficulty by Equity since this meant people were no longer getting the payments they would have got previously.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: If Mr. Hickey says they have an issue where they are not getting the-----

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: They are not getting the residuals like they would previously. That relates to the types of contracts they are signing up to.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Maybe that needs to be looked at later.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Is Mr. Hickey saying that the commentary here last week was unfair?

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: So there is a difficulty. Some of that has come from workers, crew members and Irish Equity. They do not believe that they are represented in the bodies that are here or by Screen Ireland, which will attend. Whether that is right or wrong, that is the belief. I will follow up on an issue that Deputy Boyd Barrett dealt with. There was an accusation of blacklisting. It is easy to see...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Is Ms Kirby saying that she thinks the industry development test is being dealt with and that we have an ecosystem that is providing sustainable, good quality employment? They are refuting that that is the case.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: They are not here. I refer to the people who spoke here last week and a number of others who have made contact. Is Ms Kirby saying that we have what we are looking for from section 481, which is to have a sustainable industry that provides good quality employment.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Someone might deal with the issue of the ratios and the blacklisting.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I accept there is throughput.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: From Mr. Holohan’s point of view, there is no displacement.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Like myself.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Mr. Hickey and Ms Honan have spoken about the need for a greater level of interaction. Maybe we need some element of a stakeholders’ forum where these views can be represented and we can deal with some of these issues.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Obviously, that can create a definite weakness. If someone is to point out certain issues in pay and condition, one is not necessarily in a very strong position. I welcome what has been said about collective bargaining agreements and getting a deal that everyone can live it. We need a system that will deliver for that. We have that problem that there are a number of crew and actors...

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: That is fair enough. We need better channels across the board so that we can have this communication and can put some of these issues to bed. All we want to see is a vibrant film industry that produces good films, good television and good animation and provides people with good jobs, which they will need to sustain the industry anyway.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: Only if I am given a role.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: What I took from the last interaction that we had is that there was a general acceptance of a need for collective bargaining agreements and some sort of system to deliver that. That obviously accepts on some level that there is an issue and we need to bring that to a head as soon as possible. I ask about the remit of Screen Ireland, including but beyond its involvement regarding section 481.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I get the general notion. Across the board, Screen Ireland has a responsibility to ensure the industry is supported. The agency fits itself in where ideas can be developed and that obviously means dealing with all of the relevant stakeholders. On some level, people view the agency as a general representative group of the film industry.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: I know but that view exists. I have heard that said by some of the people who have outlined the issues concerning pay and conditions. They have stated they feel part of the problem is that they are not at the table and, on some level, Screen Ireland does not have people on its board who represent them.

Committee on Budgetary Oversight: Film Sector Tax Credits: Discussion (Resumed) (12 Oct 2022)

Ruairí Ó Murchú: It has been put to a number of members that there are issues concerning pay and conditions. We can all see that there are difficulties, in that to work on the next project, one must rely on being contacted by the HOD, and there is always the possibility that someone does not ring.

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