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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: The committee will ask that Mr. Masterson would go back-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: We will press as a committee that everything be done to bring absolute clarity to this matter. As next Friday week is 11 December, we would ideally like to have clarity by that week. Effectively, it is not quite two weeks but it certainly affords ten days so we ask that minds be brought to bear to give absolute clarity to hard-pressed drivers, ordinary people, businesses and hauliers that...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: In the interests of clarity, will Mr. Masterson and TII meet with the hauliers on this matter? Perhaps we could get a commitment tonight that if the road hauliers make request in writing to TII that it meet with them as a matter of priority?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Maybe I can add to that. It is my understanding that the PPP contracts are based on a certain volume of traffic. If that volume is not met, TII makes a balancing payment. It is like the public service application pro forma. During the period of Covid, were the top-up payments from TII much higher than normal in respect of the PPPs?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: One of those being the Limerick Tunnel.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Which is the other one?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Senator Buttimer has posed a valid question. With those other six contracts, when the volume of traffic dropped significantly during Covid, what was the financial arrangement? Was there any change in the arrangement?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: The question is a very good one. In summary, did the PPP companies come to TII looking for an increase at the end of 2021 and this year?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: There was no process between 2013 and 2022.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: But there was no increase.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Why not?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Why is there an increase in the current climate when people are under so much pressure with the cost of living and fuel costs. Surely a red flag was raised or, at the very minimum, an amber light went on to signal that TII should not go ahead with these increases.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Did the amber light not go off that, in the current climate with people under so much pressure financially, bringing through these increases would put a huge burden on the travelling public? That relates to across the entire network, whether it is the M50 or all the other motorway projects, but excluding the tunnel.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Did the TII raise the matter with the Department?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: When?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: When the TII went to the Department of Transport in July, did anyone in the Department say or did the Minister say they were concerned about the rates of increase this would give rise to for the people who use the motorway network, both the M50 and all the other PPPs? Did that come up for discussion?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Had the TII met any of the Ministers at that point to discuss the issue?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: I will cover a couple of things for the sake of clarity. The income for next year will be €180 million on the M50. The tunnel will be €20 million. There will be €10 million between the M4 and the M1. Is that correct?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Transport, Tourism and Sport: Motorway Toll Charges: Transport Infrastructure Ireland (29 Nov 2022)

Kieran O'Donnell: That is €210 million in total. What were the respective figures pre-Covid in 2019?

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