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Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: It has been outlined and pointed out to the Minister that there is an issue here and he has not done anything discernible to address it, as far as I am concerned.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: Has the Minister engaged?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: Who has the Minister met on this issue?

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: He can meet the secretary general in the department in the North.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: I know better than anybody there-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: -----is no executive in Northern Ireland-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: -----and the reasons for that.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: I am quite frankly taken aback that the Minister does not see what the outworking of that will be. He mentioned this in respect of the review of the nitrates derogation. That is a review that nobody other than the Minister and his officials were even aware of when the nitrates action plan was signed off on. We have seen and heard over the past number of weeks about the difficulties this...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: I told the Minister what we are asking for and what we were expecting and he has not done any of that.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: -----that as a Minister from Donegal-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: -----what we would have been saying here-----

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: Our record on Committee Stage of legislation is that when the Minister shows a genuine effort to show he is serious about resolving an issue, we have accepted that in good faith. He has not in respect of this shown any.good faith in this regard and, therefore, for the third time, I will press the amendment.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: The Minister has now made the same speech four times. In part of that speech, he has said he does not believe it will disrupt cross-Border trade. That in itself suggests that he is delusional on this point. For the final time, I will the press the amendment.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: I move amendment No. 5: In page 9, line 33, to delete “prescription and dispensing” and substitute “prescription, dispensing and prescription endorsement”. Amendment No. 5 will expand on the phrase “prescription and dispensing” and substitute “prescription, dispensing and prescription endorsement”. The Minister will know that...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: Amendment No. 8 would make the following change: "In page 10, line 38, after “persons” to insert “, following notification to the prescription holder”." We recognise that he Minister has gone some way to addressing the farmers in respect of data processing. They tell us that concerns remain, however. The power invested in the Minister under section 7 is quite...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: This was an issue and a concern even prior to my being elected to the House. There have been countless discussions at European level and throughout this House. A very real problem has arisen. We have heard evidence in this committee from a number of very important businesses right across rural communities. In some cases they are the economic drivers of those local communities. They have...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: The Forestry (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2020. We got as far as amendment No. 1 on it.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: There has only been one other so in 50% of cases the guillotine has been applied.

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: On the basis of what the Minister has said, an element of trust is needed. I am getting it in the ear both ways on this but it is out of respect for the Chair and the members of this committee in recognition of their efforts to have this matter resolved that I do not want them to be forced to vote in a way that runs contrary to that. I hope the Minister's officials are hearing this as well,...

Select Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Bill 2023: Committee Stage (29 Mar 2023)

Matt Carthy: This amendment seeks to take account of concerns raised with us by pharmacists regarding what they consider to be a fundamental issue in respect of their prescribing of veterinary medicines. We agreed as a committee that there is a need for a particular solution for pharmacists, given the code of conduct of the Veterinary Council of Ireland prohibits them from having professional...

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