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- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: The report currently is that right now Deirdre Gillane refutes considerably what you have said in terms of Martin Fraser and that Martin Fraser refutes what you have said. It puts you in conflict and at odds with Deirdre Gillane and Martin Fraser. Indeed, the Minister for Health has said he believes Deirdre Gillane's version of these events. That puts the Minister, your political master,...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: That is highly significant. It leaves you in an isolated position, to a certain extent, in your own Department if the Minister for Health refutes something. I do not know the motivation of the Minister for Health. I just think it is incredible that the Minister for Health did not know this process. The Minister should have known about this process. Right now-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: At the time, the Minister said he did not know about the process in relation to this and that the Government did not know about it. That is where these sentences about who knew and when come from. Everybody is refusing your version of the statement.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: In fairness, what you are delivering there is different levels of knowledge but not the key facts of the knowledge, the-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: Okay. It is understood that there is a conflict of views in relation to who knew what and who said what. Unfortunately, you are isolated in terms of being the only person with the particular narrative that you have given. The other point is that the Government has backed the conclusions of the report. I understand the Minister for Health has backed the conclusions of this report.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: That sentence clearly-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: I understand, but there is a question-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: The point is that there is a question of governance here. There is a big question that is at the centre of Government in this country for years. Ideally, we should have a system where we have the elected representatives who choose the Ministers who then direct the public or civil servants to implement how the Government should be run. That means there needs to be an alignment with senior...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: What sort of accountability should happen on the basis of this report?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: Do you think there should be accountability? Do you think your role should in some way be governed by what has happened and the recommendations in this report?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: I understand with regard to how these things will be done in the future but even on how these things were done in the past, do you think there is a need for accountability in how this process happened? The report is very clear and says all accepted protocols were not fulfilled, or in other words, were breached. That is an action which through administration was a wrongdoing. One would...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: The point is, if a report is written about me, or a ministerially generated report makes a recommendation-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: -----if you disagree with it, it does not give you immunity to accountability on it, does it?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: No, no. If we are simply producing reports with accountability-free views, these are just analysis then. It is just meaningless opinion. However, this report is more than meaningless opinion surely. It comes to a conclusion; the conclusion is that there was wrongdoing and ill administration, then the highest-paid public servant in the country should have some level of responsibility to...
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: Okay. That again leaves you isolated in terms of the report, does it not?
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: Yes.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: I will repeat the question for you again.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: It says accepted protocols were breached.
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: Okay, Mr. Watt-----
- Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform, and Taoiseach: Engagement with Secretary General of the Department of Health (19 Apr 2023)
Peadar Tóibín: Do you have an interest in finding out yourself what protocols you are deemed not to have fulfilled?