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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: In a system that is under huge pressure, where people are trying to manage and do their best, those figures are absolutely extraordinary. What is the longest-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: They are not in IPAS accommodation.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: What is the longest period of time that somebody is in direct provision?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Could Ms McPhillips explain this for our benefit? If your case is processed and you fail, you can appeal then to the appeals tribunal. Is it one appeal you have a chance with?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: If you fail that then, it has to be the court?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: What are those processes?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Appeals were down to five months in 2023.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Okay. I want to ask about the numbers in the system not processed at the moment. Does Ms McPhillips have a ballpark figure for that? I know it will be a combination of a number of figures.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: That is a huge number.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Has the Department got adequate staff to deal with that?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: The Department has in the region of 400 at the moment, is that right?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: What is the target again?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: I see that. It was 143 in 2019.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: I see those figures in the notes. What timescale has been set to try to get it up to 480?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Will those positions mainly be deployed to clear some of the backlogs in the system that we have just spoken about?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Will the majority of those extra people brought in be working on dealing-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Will they be particularly dealing with some of the ones that are over-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Are people in the Department of Public Expenditure, NDP Delivery and Reform holding it up?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2022
Vote 24 - Justice
Vote 21 - Prisons
(15 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: It is good to hear that. Obviously, a huge burden is put on the system if an organisation is short-staffed.

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