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Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: This came from City of Dublin Education and Training Board. It is the public body that processes the applications on behalf of SUSI. This rule probably comes from the Department of Education and Skills. We need to write to the Accounting Officer of the Department for his comments in light of what has been said here and try to find a better way of assisting people who should be entitled to...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will write to the Department. Has SUSI its own board? Is it a separate organisation?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Administration.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: But it might not have written the rules.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Is the Department the right body to write to, or both?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will write to the City of Dublin Education and Training Board as well as the Department.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: I would be shocked if we let that through the House without addressing it. No. 2486 B is from Mr. Graham Doyle, head of communications, Data Protection Commission. It relates to various issues we raised at the committee. We will note and publish the cost of the investigation by the Data Protection Commission in regard to the public services card. We will be talking to the mother...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: I looked at that. That is the name of the case - David Fox v. Data Protection Commission.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: That is their own staff.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: It is.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will note and publish this. All these replies will feed into our next report. We may be here in the new year to deal with that. No. 2487 B is from Mr. Ray Mitchell of the Health Service Executive, providing information requested by the committee. There is quite a bit here. The HSE witnesses will be here in a couple of weeks so we will be able to interrogate them further on these...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: In regard to the PPP projects, we will ask for a detailed breakdown under all the various headings the Deputy mentioned so we will not be asking for the information on the day and getting it after Christmas. We will ask now to have it supplied to us in the briefing material in advance so we can examine it before the witnesses come in and discuss it in detail with them on a PPP project by PPP...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Lease arrangements, not PPPs.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: We need to list the agencies. The HSE has no problem publishing in its annual report a list running to dozens of pages of payments to these organisations. It publishes this information every year in its annual report so we are not asking-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Just in case people think we are being prurient, we are not looking for information on organisations for which the HSE does not publish global figures on an annual basis. It lists the organisations in its reports so there is no secret as to their identity. However, we need the information to be a bit more manageable because there are hundreds of organisations. Perhaps we should look for...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: We could have a list the size of a telephone directory otherwise.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: What figure would the Deputy suggest?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Fine. That is agreed.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: Fine. I would be worried that we would get an unmanageable amount of data-----

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (7 Nov 2019)

Seán Fleming: We will seek information on the organisations in receipt of annual payments in excess of €250,000. That will cover all of the big ones.

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