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Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter 21 – Expenditure on Welfare and Employment Schemes
Chapter 22 – Welfare Overpayment Debts
Chapter 23 – Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Social Insurance Fund – Annual Accounts 2011
(14 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: That is quite a remarkable change in performance. Prior to this system being introduced, the information I have seen indicates that a quarter of people did not turn up. Ms O'Donoghue is saying that after the introduction of the system, of the 15,807 that were required to come in, only about 500 did not come in the end.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter 21 – Expenditure on Welfare and Employment Schemes
Chapter 22 – Welfare Overpayment Debts
Chapter 23 – Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Social Insurance Fund – Annual Accounts 2011
(14 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: Can Ms O'Donoghue give me that second round figure again, involving the number of people who failed to attend?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter 21 – Expenditure on Welfare and Employment Schemes
Chapter 22 – Welfare Overpayment Debts
Chapter 23 – Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Social Insurance Fund – Annual Accounts 2011
(14 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: Of the 308, how many penalties were imposed?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter 21 – Expenditure on Welfare and Employment Schemes
Chapter 22 – Welfare Overpayment Debts
Chapter 23 – Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Social Insurance Fund – Annual Accounts 2011
(14 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: What happened to the other 256 people?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter 21 – Expenditure on Welfare and Employment Schemes
Chapter 22 – Welfare Overpayment Debts
Chapter 23 – Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Social Insurance Fund – Annual Accounts 2011
(14 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: That was in June and July 2012.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter 21 – Expenditure on Welfare and Employment Schemes
Chapter 22 – Welfare Overpayment Debts
Chapter 23 – Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Social Insurance Fund – Annual Accounts 2011
(14 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: Has that process been repeated since then?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter 21 – Expenditure on Welfare and Employment Schemes
Chapter 22 – Welfare Overpayment Debts
Chapter 23 – Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Social Insurance Fund – Annual Accounts 2011
(14 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: The process that took place in June and July is ongoing.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter 21 – Expenditure on Welfare and Employment Schemes
Chapter 22 – Welfare Overpayment Debts
Chapter 23 – Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Social Insurance Fund – Annual Accounts 2011
(14 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: Given that was eight or nine months ago, can Ms O'Donoghue supply more recent figures for us, so that we can gain an understanding of how this is developing?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter 21 – Expenditure on Welfare and Employment Schemes
Chapter 22 – Welfare Overpayment Debts
Chapter 23 – Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Social Insurance Fund – Annual Accounts 2011
(14 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: One of the major conclusions from the Comptroller and Auditor General and the Garda Síochána in examining fraud is that a big part of preventing a recurrence is an intensive engagement with people who are receiving benefits. Ms O'Donoghue is saying that across this period, after the new system was put in place, there was a big difference in the results compared with what happened...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter 21 – Expenditure on Welfare and Employment Schemes
Chapter 22 – Welfare Overpayment Debts
Chapter 23 – Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Social Insurance Fund – Annual Accounts 2011
(14 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: We all know - and Deputy O'Donnell mentioned it - that people who receive these payments in many cases do not want to receive them. They would rather be at work and leading a different life. The overwhelming majority are receiving such payments honestly and for good reason. On page two of her opening statement, Ms O'Donoghue talked about the Pathways to Work scheme. She said that scheme...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter 21 – Expenditure on Welfare and Employment Schemes
Chapter 22 – Welfare Overpayment Debts
Chapter 23 – Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Social Insurance Fund – Annual Accounts 2011
(14 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: The customers, yes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter 21 – Expenditure on Welfare and Employment Schemes
Chapter 22 – Welfare Overpayment Debts
Chapter 23 – Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Social Insurance Fund – Annual Accounts 2011
(14 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: To date.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter 21 – Expenditure on Welfare and Employment Schemes
Chapter 22 – Welfare Overpayment Debts
Chapter 23 – Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Social Insurance Fund – Annual Accounts 2011
(14 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: I know King's Inns. The design and layout of it has fundamentally changed.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter 21 – Expenditure on Welfare and Employment Schemes
Chapter 22 – Welfare Overpayment Debts
Chapter 23 – Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Social Insurance Fund – Annual Accounts 2011
(14 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: Earlier, we talked about the figure of 15,807 and Ms O'Donoghue said she would get more recent figures. How are those people picked?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 38 – Social Protection
Chapter 21 – Expenditure on Welfare and Employment Schemes
Chapter 22 – Welfare Overpayment Debts
Chapter 23 – Regularity of Social Welfare Payments
Social Insurance Fund – Annual Accounts 2011
(14 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: I thank the witnesses for attending and for their preparation for the meeting. I acknowledge that the staff of the Department are doing very difficult work in trying circumstances. In particular, the community welfare officers do great work in trying times, which we must acknowledge. I will discuss the fraud issue but shift first to an issue that was mentioned in the Department's opening...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (Resumed) (14 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: My point relates to the discussion we have just had and it is on the status of our investigation into Dublin Docklands Development Authority. Our inquiry into the matter was paused because of a court case at the time in question. My understanding, which the clerk may be able to confirm, is that the court case is now no longer taking place. If so, does this give our committee the ability to...

Written Answers — Department of Social Protection: Jobseeker's Allowance Eligibility (12 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: To ask the Minister for Social Protection if she will give consideration to a proposal whereby persons on the live register and in receipt of jobseekers payments can avail of a Social Welfare holiday for a time limited period in order to allow them seek employment overseas and whereby on their return they would still have the same benefits available to them; and if she will make a statement...

Written Answers — Department of Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Animal Welfare Issues (12 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: To ask the Minister for Agriculture, Food and the Marine the consideration that has been given to including removing the current distinction between owned animals and those animals living in a wild state in the proposed Animal Welfare Bill; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [12296/13]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Misuse of Drugs (12 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: To ask the Minister for Health the progress being made in drafting legislation that will enable the Gardaí to prosecute those found in the illegal possession of prescription drugs; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [12640/13]

Written Answers — Department of Health: Water Fluoridation (12 Mar 2013)

Paschal Donohoe: To ask the Minister for Health if he will review the current policy of fluoridating our water supply; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [12754/13]

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