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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: I am not even going to waste my time asking for the figure-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: Mr. Gunning has told us why he cannot give us the figure, so I am asking if this means that the board is increasing what it sees as the contingency to deal with claims.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: Mr. Gunning says he is open to meeting with BAM, but what I am trying to figure out is there are all of these claims that can be dealt with in a number of different ways. One can use the processes, such as the employer representative process, conciliation or the High Court, which may sort some of this out, or parties can sit down and resolve this. I am asking if there will be an attempt for...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: It has not been resolved.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: Exactly. I am accept that.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: I accept that 100%. We are only asking. We are here where we are right now today.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: How many of the claims have gone to conciliation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: How many were adjudicated on?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: No, when they go to conciliation, what happens? Does the conciliator say that they come down in favour of the board or that they come down in favour of the contractor?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: Okay, so of those recommendations-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: Okay.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: Were they found in favour of the contractor?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: What about the other ones?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: No, I am talking about the recommendations.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: How many of the recommendations that went to conciliation were found in favour of the contractor?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: No, I am asking for a number.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: It does matter.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: Please, can Mr. Gunning furnish it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: Please, can Mr. Gunning furnish us with that number, because our time is very precious.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: Update on New National Children’s Hospital: National Paediatric Hospital Development Board (12 Jul 2023)

David Cullinane: Okay. I appreciate that. I just want to come back to Mr. Devine regarding the operating theatres. I want to make sure that whatever information I and this committee have been given is accurate. I know Mr. Devine will provide accurate information; I am not saying that he has not done so. Yet, when I spoke about the workshops that were established, Mr. Devine said they have been...

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