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Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 26: Collection of Motor Taxation
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána
(16 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: To reiterate, I am not making light of anything. As we all know, the public is not happy about what has been discovered. Mr. Callinan seems to be saying, however, that the information that was downloaded from PULSE and given out in the public arena amounted to far more than ever went through the confidential recipient in the first place.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 26: Collection of Motor Taxation
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána
(16 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: In other words, a large portion of what we became aware of through the public arena had never gone through that process?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 26: Collection of Motor Taxation
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána
(16 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: To be clear, I am not here to defend Mr. Callinan's corner but I want to hear both sides.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 26: Collection of Motor Taxation
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána
(16 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: Finally, will the Commissioner explain the role of the Garda Síochána Ombudsman Commission in all of this? Is it free for somebody to make a complaint to the ombudsman commission in respect of how this matter was dealt with by the Garda? Is that option there?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 26: Collection of Motor Taxation
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána
(16 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: In other words, is there a reasonable possibility - I am not saying it will happen, but it is possible - that this case could be referred to the ombudsman commission?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 26: Collection of Motor Taxation
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána
(16 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: My point is that it is possible the process is not yet completed.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 26: Collection of Motor Taxation
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána
(16 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: Does the same prohibition apply in the case of retired personnel?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 26: Collection of Motor Taxation
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána
(16 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: Perhaps Mr. Callinan will send me a note on that point. I assume it is covered in legislation.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 26: Collection of Motor Taxation
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána
(16 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: I am not trying to trap Mr. Callinan on the details but merely attempting to follow through on the issues that arise.

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 26: Collection of Motor Taxation
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána
(16 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: A member of the public then, or a Member of the Oireachtas, if he or she chose so to do, could take this issue to the ombudsman commission tomorrow morning. Mr. Callinan is not saying whether this should or should not be done but that it is possible. Will he clarify that there is nothing preventing an individual from doing so?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 26: Collection of Motor Taxation
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána
(16 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: In other words, it is not over yet. Earlier in the discussion, in response to a question from Deputy Shane Ross, Mr. Callinan indicated that the Garda Síochána does not run any informants "off the book". Is he satisfied that the Garda does not pay informers?

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 26: Collection of Motor Taxation
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána
(16 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Callinan might be able to offer some insight on a matter which, although it does not strictly come under the Garda Vote, would nevertheless be of interest to the public. Each year, under Vote 15, an allocation is made for the secret service. Last year, for instance, the payment through that account was €515,000, while the Estimate for this year gives a figure of €1...

Public Accounts Committee: 2011 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Chapter 26: Collection of Motor Taxation
Vote 20: An Garda Síochána
(16 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: I do not want to talk about any of the details or compromise any intelligence. However, I would like to know whether the Commissioner, as the man we all look to as overseer of our police force and its function to protect citizens, or any member of his force, has any involvement with that secret service account? Or is there another person or entity with the remit to make payments to people...

Written Answers — Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade: Good Friday Agreement (16 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: 32. To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade the details of his discussions with the Secretary of State for Northern Ireland and with Members of the Northern Ireland Executive in relation to the implementation of outstanding provisions in the Good Friday Agreement; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [23187/13]

Written Answers — Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade: International Relations (16 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: 33. To ask the Tánaiste and Minister for Foreign Affairs and Trade if Commissioner Ashton reported to the EU Foreign Affairs Council in relation to negotiations concerning Iran; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [23213/13]

Written Answers — Department of Finance: VAT Information Exchange System (16 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: 98. To ask the Minister for Finance the number of companies that make returns using the connect direct facility to submit VAT Information Exchange System returns; and if he will make a statement on the matter. [23422/13]

Written Answers — Department of Social Protection: Disability Allowance Appeals (16 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: 150. To ask the Minister for Social Protection if all the necessary information has been submitted in order to finalise a decision on disability allowance in respect of a person (details supplied) in County Laois; when a decision will issue; and if she will make a statement on the matter. [23391/13]

Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill 2012: Second Stage (15 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: Maybe not. I am delighted to see that we are getting more than €2.5 billion back, but I do not think people realise that we are paying that sum into the EU's coffers this year. My point - which I will continue to make until people are tired of hearing it, so that maybe somebody will act eventually - is that it is never discussed in this House. It is excluded because it is called...

Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill 2012: Second Stage (15 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: I understand that, but we should be speaking about the cost of the debt which is part of government expenditure. It should not be excluded from our discussion process because it comes from the Central Fund and has nothing to do with Parliament. It is taxpayers' money and how much we pay on the national debt should be voted through each year. This is the point I wish to make. I know...

Ministers and Secretaries (Amendment) Bill 2012: Second Stage (15 May 2013)

Seán Fleming: Of course we get money from the EU, but we certainly do not get back the money for servicing the national debt. That money is gone.

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