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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Regarding this statutory instrument, have the responsible persons in the local places where we get medicines, a co-op or wherever else been contacted by the Department or was any system put together to try to work with them to upgrade them or the like so they could have the qualification to be the responsible persons with more letters after their names? I will put it that way.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: That is all I want to know. A happy medium needs to be found for the simple reason that we need vets. Farmers around the country need vets. In my part of the country, we get a good service, as do most places. We need the co-ops and the small operators like Colm Tully down my way to sell the dosing stuff. The pharmacies also do it. We need to strike a happy medium between all of them. I...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Right. That is one of the major stumbling blocks and needs sorting. Do the witnesses agree?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I put this to Mr. Doyle because he is on the co-op side of it. Co-ops have a tendency. There is a fear among farmers - I will be clear on this because I have to call it straight - that co-ops want a dairy man to buy the milk, fertiliser, meal and everything. Was there a danger that if co-ops got too much control, they would have everyone pushed into the one corner of buying everything off...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Mr. O'Shea reckons there could be 500 to 600 outfits or individuals lost if this goes the route it is going at the moment.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Is that with the new legislation?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Even if it was changed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I mean before now. I am not talking about now. When this was starting off, was there any engagement on resolving it?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: If you do a faecal sample-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: First, under the previous and current programmes for Government, every decision must be rural approved. Has this been rural approved?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: The consequences of this legislation. Obviously not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Okay. That is grand. The Department said it looked at 85,000 prescriptions. A total of 84,915 have come in. Does that not give the Department an indication that it needs to wait until next January at least to see what the balance is and that it cannot jump in? At the moment, there are 84,915 to the vets, 85 to the merchants. Does that not worry the Department? Should it not wait...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: There are no consequences for the job.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: "Yes" or "No" is all I want.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Why not?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Except that farmers will be paying for a prescription.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: What are Ms Garvan's thoughts?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Okay. That is more money. Has the Department engaged with the responsible person?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: When and where did it do that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Why has the responsible person been accepted by the EU in Northern Ireland but not here in southern Ireland?

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