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Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Perfect.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Nothing would delay the pausing of an activity that the OPR was concerned about, for example.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Perfect.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 171: In page 63, to delete lines 15 to 23 and substitute the following: “(5) Where the Government has completed a review under section 20, a draft of the revised or new National Planning Framework as the case may be, shall be laid before each House of the Oireachtas, and the revised or new National Planning Framework shall not be made until a resolution...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I assume, and the Minister is ahead of me there with his question for his official, is that it may be a simple, quick case of things taking more or less time than before. Again, it would be helpful if the Minister could clarify whether this is solely about the timelines,

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: For clarity, the statement "shall not of itself invalidate" means it could be part invalidating. It does not exclude it from being considered invalidating but it does not automatically, on its own, invalidate.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Am I right in understanding that this solely relates to time periods and not other elements of plan-making such as the requirement for public participation because that is obviously a separate issue?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Yes.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I am surprised that amendment No. 187 is in this grouping rather than a later one. I will not question the Bills Office but this amendment is on a separate matter. It relates to section 23, which is on national planning statements, on which we will have a discussion later. One of the key issues that arose during pre-legislative scrutiny was that national planning statements are very...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I have a few points and questions in response. This amendment is much more substantive than just dealing with the issue of Oireachtas approval.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: That is okay.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I learned a long time ago never to question the logic of the Bills Office as it always has some reason. This amendment is not just about Oireachtas approval. The Minister is absolutely right. We had a lengthy and detailed discussion on that specific point. Therefore, that is not really the point I want to focus on because the Minister of State, Deputy O'Donnell, made the Government's...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: It is worth considering. Obviously, others would have a different view. The Minister mentioned the sustainable development density guidelines. I think they are a good section 28 guideline. Tll refer to the key point here. There was a lot of discussion with the Department, with architects from the Royal Institute of Architects of Ireland and developers, etc. This committee played no...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I will make a final point. It is relevant to the Minister's reply. The section 28 guidelines on building heights is a good case in point. As the Minister will be aware, what happened there is there was a desire by the Government centrally, and the Government is entitled to do this, to essentially remove building heights from development plans and section 28 mandatory ministerial...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: We may have been given an answer, but do we know?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Do the officials know the answer?

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: As the section 28 ministerial guidelines legislation was introduced in January 2016, 30-something is not a huge number. Were the Minister to make the case that it would be too onerous, and maybe he is right,I would be open to having a position, not unlike EU scrutiny, where when a section 28 guideline in draft is published, the committee could be asked whether this was something it wanted...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: Sure.

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: There is a huge difference between having something in the NPF, which is a legally binding, statutory plan, and having something in section 219. The Minister knows, as we do, some local authorities have good housing action plans while others are patchy. If he wants to ensure consistency, standardisation and compliance, the best way to do it is put it in the NPF. Sections 19 to 22,...

Select Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Planning and Development Bill 2023: Committee Stage (Resumed) (7 Mar 2024)

Eoin Ó Broin: I move amendment No. 173: In page 63, to delete all words from and including “(1)” in line 29 down to and including line 30 and substitute the following: “(1) In carrying out a review under section 20, the Government shall have regard to such plans or documents as it considers appropriate, and to assist the identification and determination of appropriate and current...

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