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Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(19 Apr 2023)

David Cullinane: We know that.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(19 Apr 2023)

David Cullinane: I have a lot of questions. I will probably come in twice. I will not cover them all in the first session. I will raise one issue before I move on to some more substantial issues relating to the Estimates. We must ensure there is good governance and accountability with respect to the spending of taxpayers' money. We know health research funding was the subject of a report the Minister...

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(19 Apr 2023)

David Cullinane: I understand that but my point is that the Minister's Secretary General is stating what he sees as facts, which are completely at odds with what the Secretary to the Government is saying. He says that these are not facts. Does the Minister see that as problematic from our perspective when we are talking about spending taxpayers' money? It seems that the Minister for Health was kept in the...

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(19 Apr 2023)

David Cullinane: I understand that.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(19 Apr 2023)

David Cullinane: That is not the case because in his submission, he had asked that sections of the report be taken out. He felt strongly enough to ask for sections of the report to be taken out. I imagine the Minister understands that and that he understands exactly what he was saying. It is problematic. All I am saying is that it is unseemly. It should not happen again. It cannot happen again. We must...

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(19 Apr 2023)

David Cullinane: I need to move on.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(19 Apr 2023)

David Cullinane: Whether they were acting in good faith is a matter of opinion but established processes were certainly not followed. To me, that is not good faith and that must be accepted. I will move on to another important issue. In the last budget, in the Minister's opening statement and in the budget booklet, the roll-out of free GP visits to an expected further 400,000 people was rightly...

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(19 Apr 2023)

David Cullinane: I have to stop the Minister there because, this is the problem. I said it to the Minister at the time. They raised concerns before the Government made its announcement. Their concerns were well known. There was no consultation with them. When representatives of the Irish College of General Practitioners, ICGP, were before the committee, I asked whether there had been any consultation...

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(19 Apr 2023)

David Cullinane: People are still waiting. I am still waiting to hear when it will be done. When will it be delivered? The Minister might get to the point.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(19 Apr 2023)

David Cullinane: Does the Minister have a timeframe? I have asked for a timeframe. The Minister set the date of 1 April.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(19 Apr 2023)

David Cullinane: What about a new time?

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(19 Apr 2023)

David Cullinane: That does not answer my question.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(19 Apr 2023)

David Cullinane: I will ask a number of questions on capital funding and the delivery of capital projects at pace, which we do not seem to get right both in respect of housing and healthcare. On a more positive note, I commend Derek Tierney on his work in this area. He has brought a new sharpness to the area of capital funding and has ideas on how we can progress projects more quickly. Speeding up the...

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(19 Apr 2023)

David Cullinane: Do we have to wait until budget 2024 for the funding for that or is that being progressed?

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(19 Apr 2023)

David Cullinane: On that, we have to prepare and do our job of holding the Minister to account and also put forward our alternatives, which can be quite difficult if we do not get information. I have asked the Department to come back to me with a note on how many beds were delivered over the last five years, which I would imagine should be fairly easy to get. How many beds were delivered and what was the...

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(19 Apr 2023)

David Cullinane: Will all of that have to go into one budget or could it be staggered over a number of budgets?

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(19 Apr 2023)

David Cullinane: I am not saying it should be in one budget. I am just asking if it is more likely that it will be multi-annual.

Select Committee on Health: Estimates for Public Services 2023
Vote 38 - Health (Further Revised)
(19 Apr 2023)

David Cullinane: In how many years would the Minister hope to do it?

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