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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: Do the witnesses know if that included any staff who were previously contracted, or working within the previous two teams? Did they go with the new teams? Although it was a change of name, were there, in some cases, familiar faces?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: I am talking about the external contractors. Did people move from one contractor to the other contractor? Was there a continuation of staff, although the actual representative company was different?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: A tester who the council signed off with in January 2022 was kept on even though-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: Was he part of the team?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: So he was part of that team-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: -----and he was kept on.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: I understand that nobody wants a huge knowledge gap. I am just asking questions.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: I have many more questions. Fifteen minutes is so much more than ten minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: I thank all of our guests for coming in. I know it is not easy.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: Was an internal audit done? Was an internal audit report provided during the five-year period? There is a fee charged in the financial statements?.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: Are there two material contractors that the council is in legal proceedings with?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: You wait for ages and then you come up twice. I want to jump straight to the internal audit. Was this flagged initially in the internal audit? I apologise - this is for Mr. O'Sullivan. I wanted to pick up on this as I said I might come back to him.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: Did it come up in the internal audit? Was it flagged there?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: What year was that?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: Where did the internal audit report go? What was the highest level?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: I get what Mr. O'Sullivan is saying. It is there since 2020. Where does it go to? Does it go to the board?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: It is signed off by the board. Is it then shared with the Department?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: Who is the internal auditor? Is it contracted in or is it a staff member?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: When did the latest arbitration case start?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation Accounts 2023
Vote 33 - Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht, Sport and Media
Financial Statements 2023: Arts Council
Financial Statements 2023: National Gallery
Report on the Accounts of the Public Services 2023
Chapter 10 - Measuring the Performance of Arts and Sports Spending
(29 May 2025)

Joe Neville: I know there was talk about it a few months ago. Deputy Geoghegan went through the numbers. What was the value of the case that started in the last ten days?

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