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Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: When the national lottery hands over the cheque for good causes, where does the money go?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: It is not good for the national lottery that it cannot be specific on where the money goes. It gets washed into Departments but we do not what happens at the far end.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: I am not suggesting for a minute that the PPP company which won the contract is involved in the black economy. However, PPP companies which win contracts employ subcontractors and in turn those subcontractors often employ other subcontractors and so on and somewhere down the line, the poor guy who is working there is made to seek jobseeker's allowance, is breaking all sorts of laws and is...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: Can we get a note on the projects we have just mentioned?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: I think the issue is there; the problem exists. I have referred to it here in the context of school building projects in the past. Contractors were complicit in this and were actually transporting people to dole offices and back to the sites. I am not saying it is happening on this project but it has happened on other Government projects. It happened on Department of Education and Skills...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: The M1 or the N1?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: Did Mr. Mullaney say 70% in Limerick?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: The outcome for Limerick was outstanding. What lessons does the Department draw from that? What is the toll on that tunnel? Is it set at a prohibitive level?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: Demand management in terms of trucks means putting obstacles on the roads, like speed bumps, to make it less attractive to use those roads.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: I ask the witnesses to provide a more detailed note on the Limerick example. The result is both good and very interesting. A 70% increase in the number of trucks using the tunnel would suggest that price was a major factor. The outcomes for the other areas are less dramatic. To turn to the accounts, I ask Mr. O'Mahony to explain an entry on page 15.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: Yes, on page 15 there is a reference to a commitment regarding a contract entered into on 1 July 2012 for €566.9 million for helicopter services.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: How many years does that cover? What is the annual cost and what is involved?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: I do not see a commensurate figure in the 2012 accounts. Is it there somewhere? Where would one find the comparative figure? The sum of €59 million is for 2014 but how does that compare with two years ago? Perhaps the witnesses can tell me where the comparative figure is or perhaps it is not in the accounts at all.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: Was it of that order?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: What page? My page numbers are different.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: What heading is that under?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: Okay, I see it now. Is the Department happy with that contract?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: My next question is a simple one. Under the heading "Allowances for higher, special and additional duties", how did one person get €59,113 extra on top of his or her salary? What was the salary grade in question and how did the individual get more than €59,000 on top of that salary?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: I am sure he did not rush to come back.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report and Appropriation Accounts of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 7 - Management of the Fixed Charge Notice System
Chapter 8 - Management of Outsourced Safety Cameras
Chapter 14 - Cash Balances in the RSA
Vote 31 - Transport, Tourism and Sport
(19 Jun 2014)

Seán Fleming: At the old rate?

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