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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: I see. Was Mr. Smyth aware of who was with him when he was speaking to him on the telephone?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Does Mr. Smyth not agree that the advantage of asking for a separate written statement from each of these gentlemen is that they would commit themselves to a version before he started asking one of them on the telephone for information in a situation where the call could be discussed with the other?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: If Mr. Smyth asked both of them to come before him, it would be very simple for him to ask whether they had been speaking to each other since he last spoke to them.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: I cannot see how a written statement from both of them would not have helped. Mr. Smyth would have known their versions of the dinner in New York and of what was discussed. He would have known the versions of the one, two or three dinners in the Merrion Hotel.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Mr. Smyth proceeded on the basis that the former Minister-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Did Mr. Smyth meet Deputy Naughten in person or speak to him by phone?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Mr. Smyth assumed that the written statement Mr. McCourt provided through the Secretary General of the Department had not been given to Deputy Naughten.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Was there any basis for that assumption?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Those statements were incomplete.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Who set up the New York dinner?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Mr. McCourt knew the then Minister was going to be in New York and issued an invitation.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Who set up the dinner in County Clare attended by the Minister of State, Deputy Breen?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Who set up the dinners in Dublin?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: What about the dinners in the Merrion Hotel?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: To summarise the situation, where minutes existed, Mr. Smyth did not ask anybody to elaborate on the meeting or what happened at it but, rather, took the minutes at face value.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: In regard to the meetings which were not minuted, Mr. Smyth had one or more telephone conversations with the participants.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Did Mr. Smyth note the subject matter of conversations at the meetings for which there were no minutes?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: What were the topics of conversation? What was discussed at those meetings?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: We will begin with the dinner in New York.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Communications, Climate Action and Environment: Review of Procurement Process for National Broadband Plan: Discussion (6 Dec 2018)

Michael McDowell: Did Mr. Smyth ask what the remainder of the conversation regarded?

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