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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Would Ms Duggan like to respond briefly?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: We are talking about a very specific case. None of the rest of us know the background. Obviously, we cannot bring up all the details here. With regard to this particular case, I ask that Deputy Murphy-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: It would be useful for that conversation to happen.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: I understand but it is important that the Deputy understand what happened there.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Will Ms Duggan give a commitment to answering that parliamentary question?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: It is important that the Deputy get that answer.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: I call Deputy Burke.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Ms Murphy might be brief as we have gone way over time.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Yes. Ms Murphy to respond, please.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: To stay on that theme for a moment, Ms Duggan said there are 1,200 unaccompanied minors. Is that in total in the last two years?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Approximately 600 per year.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: What percentage of those are coming from the Ukraine?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Okay. Generally, would it be-----

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: From Ukraine?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Can Mr. Delaney give me those last two figures again?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Okay, it was between 30% and 50%. Obviously, when unaccompanied minors arrive, Tusla has to provide for them. People obviously------

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: This problem has been landed on Tusla. I do not want to say it is a problem but the responsibility for this has landed into Tusla's office. I want to try to figure out what is happening here. Tusla had 1,200 children in two years and approximately 600 of those - 550 or so - were from Ukraine. Has Mr. Delaney's Department contacted the Ukrainian Embassy to find out why and how minors are...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Not this specific issue.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: Why is that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022 - Tusla-Child and Family Agency (29 Feb 2024)

Brian Stanley: We have children arriving in this country and this has landed on Tusla's doorstep at a time when we are under huge pressure. I will refer to the staffing issues and what is being done in a minute. I know Ms Duggan is trying to take some measures to get on top of this. However, we have huge resources issues and huge problems with getting suitable accommodation. The tap is still turned on...

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