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Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: The reason I was giving the break was for Mr. McCarthy to get his papers in order.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: It can be after the break. I am suspending the meeting for five minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: I thank Mr. McCarthy.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: The meeting is suspended for ten minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: Yes. We will come back to it later in the second round.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: Yes, that is okay. We will come back to that after the break. There will be a second round of questioning-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: There will be a second round of questioning. I will allow the Deputy back in after that point.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: I am suspending the meeting for a ten-minute break.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: Yes, if members are happy to do that.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: I have not got in yet either so I am happy enough to proceed for another ten minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: Sorry, I will chair the meeting. If Deputy Murphy wants to come in before the break, I will allow her to do so.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: I will suspend the meeting for ten minutes.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: To revert to accommodation for Ukrainians, a lot has been said already about it. In terms of the cost, Mr. McCarthy outlined the costs. Sorry, does Deputy Kelly want to come back in?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: Okay. As regards the costs Mr. McCarthy outlined earlier, it was over €70 per head for private providers and over €30 for something else. Can McCarthy give us those figures again?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: At €76, it is substantial.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: I understand that the Department could not magic-up new buildings or acquire new buildings or whatever and have State-run facilities staffed and up and running in a matter of weeks or even months, but there is a substantial differential. I am looking at the briefing notes that the Department provided. If one looks at the costs for international protection, the figure for 2022 was...

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: Is it?

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: 2022 Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 40 - Children, Equality, Disability, Integration and Youth
(18 Apr 2024)

Brian Stanley: So €1.49 million.

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