Results 26,661-26,680 of 34,872 for speaker:Seán Fleming

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: I will be clear about this. There is a Supplementary Estimate under sub-heading A1. This deals with superannuation allowances, compensation allowances, pensions and children's allowances. There is a requirement under that for an extra €316,000. That is the question I asked about pensions. Under sub-heading A2, there is a Supplementary Estimate required of €808,000. This...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: We all accept that clear amounts have been calculated but people will ask us for a breakdown of the figures so we need more information. I sought figures and information under the A4 subhead and I stress I do not want to see names. I do not think anyone could suggest that we would ever seek names but I want to see the lump sums of over €100,000. If there were any such lump sums, how...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: Send it on.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: They were permanent.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: It would be helpful if the Minister could include a list of the various categories deemed unestablished by way of information.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: It would be helpful.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: The figure provided gives an average cost per retirement of €108,000.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: As everyone knows, the mix of people leaving the public service each year differs in terms of age, years of experience and salary grades. Before the Supplementary Estimate is sent back to the Dáil, I ask the Minister to provide details of this mix, specifically in terms of the grades and years of service of the 820 people who retired from the public service last year at a cost of...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: Is the additional €27 million provided for under this subhead not specifically related to the 250 additional retirements? The logic of the Minister's argument is that he should have pointed out in his opening statement that the Supplementary Estimate is required because 250 more retirements occurred than were provided for and the different mix of ages, grades and experience among this...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: It is not what the Minister said.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: It is not fair to use the phrase "half a wit". Is the Minister referring to members of the public? The public will take his opening statement at face value.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: Exactly, and if that is the case, why is the figure not broken down? Rather than providing detail, the Minister threw in a figure of 250 additional retirements and stated that the Department was seeking an additional €27 million. My point is that there is more to this issue and the Minister should have provided details.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: If the Minister's definition of asking for details of a Supplementary Estimate, which happens-----

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: Members of the public can make up their own minds on that.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: I will judge the Minister's response on the basis of the information I receive. I would have studied it if it had been provided sooner.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: I will not drop notes to the Minister. I am asking him to provide the information.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: I will allow Deputy McDonald to contribute first.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: I have a few questions to ask about the figures. First, on the details of that big figure - the Minister might tell me if the figures I am putting to him are correct - the Minister said in his opening statement that 820 people had retired in 2013. I am looking at the Estimates figure and the outturn for 2013 was €48 million in that area under Vote A5. Would that be correct? I want...

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: I am talking about the figure from subhead A4, which is the big figure.

Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Select Sub-Committee on Public Expenditure and Reform: Estimates for Public Services 2014
Vote 12 - Superannuation and Retired Allowances (Supplementary)
Vote 17 - Public Appointments Service (Supplementary) (9 Dec 2014)

Seán Fleming: That refers to established civil servants. Subhead A5 refers to unestablished civil servants.