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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Scrutiny of Homeless Prevention Bill 2020, Tenancy Protection Bill 2023 and Dereliction and Building Regeneration Bill 2022: Private Members' Bills (14 Dec 2023)

Cian O'Callaghan: Just to clarify, for most renters in this situation, nothing changes. They will still have the protection of the Tyrrelstown amendment. In the small number of cases where, in my view, attempts are made to try to circumvent this amendment, that possibility would be removed.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Scrutiny of Homeless Prevention Bill 2020, Tenancy Protection Bill 2023 and Dereliction and Building Regeneration Bill 2022: Private Members' Bills (14 Dec 2023)

Cian O'Callaghan: Yes. That has certainly happened in a number of instances, Tathony House being one such example. I think it has happened out in St. Helen's Court, DĂșn Laoghaire, as well. Therefore, by utilising this clause without necessarily being able to prove it in the end, for someone trying to get vacant possession, it can still have that effect. It kind of undermines the amendment, although the...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Scrutiny of Homeless Prevention Bill 2020, Tenancy Protection Bill 2023 and Dereliction and Building Regeneration Bill 2022: Private Members' Bills (14 Dec 2023)

Cian O'Callaghan: I think it was arbitrary. It was to specifically exclude small- and medium-sized landlords from this. My view is that it would not have passed if they had been included. There would not have been that cross-party support for it, so-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Scrutiny of Homeless Prevention Bill 2020, Tenancy Protection Bill 2023 and Dereliction and Building Regeneration Bill 2022: Private Members' Bills (14 Dec 2023)

Cian O'Callaghan: I could not tell you with 100% certainty. Sorry. It is just that we have dealt with thousands of amendments of different-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Scrutiny of Homeless Prevention Bill 2020, Tenancy Protection Bill 2023 and Dereliction and Building Regeneration Bill 2022: Private Members' Bills (14 Dec 2023)

Cian O'Callaghan: Not that I can recall. I could not tell you definitely that I have not. I would have to look back. The impetus for me to draft this Bill came when I saw what was happening in Tathony House, having seen what had happened in St. Helen's Court. The impetus for me to do this came relatively recently, within this year.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Scrutiny of Homeless Prevention Bill 2020, Tenancy Protection Bill 2023 and Dereliction and Building Regeneration Bill 2022: Private Members' Bills (14 Dec 2023)

Cian O'Callaghan: That was a miscellaneous provisions Bill, though. Is that the reason?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Scrutiny of Homeless Prevention Bill 2020, Tenancy Protection Bill 2023 and Dereliction and Building Regeneration Bill 2022: Private Members' Bills (14 Dec 2023)

Cian O'Callaghan: That is why we are not getting miscellaneous Bills.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Scrutiny of Homeless Prevention Bill 2020, Tenancy Protection Bill 2023 and Dereliction and Building Regeneration Bill 2022: Private Members' Bills (14 Dec 2023)

Cian O'Callaghan: We would be coming forward with all these things.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Scrutiny of Homeless Prevention Bill 2020, Tenancy Protection Bill 2023 and Dereliction and Building Regeneration Bill 2022: Private Members' Bills (14 Dec 2023)

Cian O'Callaghan: Not that the Minister-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Scrutiny of Homeless Prevention Bill 2020, Tenancy Protection Bill 2023 and Dereliction and Building Regeneration Bill 2022: Private Members' Bills (14 Dec 2023)

Cian O'Callaghan: Some people can live very well in those circumstances. We would not want them getting caught-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Scrutiny of Homeless Prevention Bill 2020, Tenancy Protection Bill 2023 and Dereliction and Building Regeneration Bill 2022: Private Members' Bills (14 Dec 2023)

Cian O'Callaghan: I would not want anything in the Bill to be used vexatiously by some neighbour who is not happy that there is this slightly alternative house in the neighbourhood.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Scrutiny of Homeless Prevention Bill 2020, Tenancy Protection Bill 2023 and Dereliction and Building Regeneration Bill 2022: Private Members' Bills (14 Dec 2023)

Cian O'Callaghan: Yes. These are real-world situations.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Scrutiny of Homeless Prevention Bill 2020, Tenancy Protection Bill 2023 and Dereliction and Building Regeneration Bill 2022: Private Members' Bills (14 Dec 2023)

Cian O'Callaghan: I know people who live in those situations who use rainwater, get water from springs up the mountain and all the rest.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Scrutiny of Homeless Prevention Bill 2020, Tenancy Protection Bill 2023 and Dereliction and Building Regeneration Bill 2022: Private Members' Bills (14 Dec 2023)

Cian O'Callaghan: It may not be within settlements, but what if they are?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Scrutiny of Homeless Prevention Bill 2020, Tenancy Protection Bill 2023 and Dereliction and Building Regeneration Bill 2022: Private Members' Bills (14 Dec 2023)

Cian O'Callaghan: That is my only reservation with the Bill.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Scrutiny of Homeless Prevention Bill 2020, Tenancy Protection Bill 2023 and Dereliction and Building Regeneration Bill 2022: Private Members' Bills (14 Dec 2023)

Cian O'Callaghan: Perhaps that section could have slightly different wording such as a site that has been disconnected from electricity or water services for a period of two or more years and is not self-generating.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government: Scrutiny of Homeless Prevention Bill 2020, Tenancy Protection Bill 2023 and Dereliction and Building Regeneration Bill 2022: Private Members' Bills (14 Dec 2023)

Cian O'Callaghan: This is an excellent Bill. Great work has been done on it. It is good that it covers the different aspects. I would love to see this Bill progressed and done in this Oireachtas term, if we can, with us working together to get it through the system or progress it as far as we possibly can. On section 6, if we do a report - which we should soon - we could then make our recommendations on...

Local Government (Mayor of Limerick) Bill 2023: Report and Final Stages (13 Dec 2023)

Cian O'Callaghan: This is a discussion about whether a mayor who is directly elected by the people of Limerick will be able to appoint the staff in his or her immediate office. We are talking about five staff. There is no city anywhere in the world in which the directly elected mayor cannot appoint his or her own staff. The norm is that directly elected mayors are responsible for the appointment and...

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