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Seanad: Regulation of Providers of Building Works and Building Control (Amendment) Bill 2022: Second Stage (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: I welcome the Minister of State to the House. This is important and timely legislation. It has been a long time coming. At the outset, I acknowledge the enormous work of a former colleague of the Minister of State, and former Chairman of the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Housing, Planning and Local Government, Maria Bailey. I am looking at her name on the report and the seven key...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: I thank the witnesses for coming today. My first question is for Fido. Do all databases use the vet verification?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: Just so I am 100% sure, Mr. Heslin is telling the committee that not all databases use vet verification.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: Am I correct in saying that not all databases use a vet verification system at present?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: That is an important point. If so, who registers the other chips?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: Okay. I will come back to the lay implanters for a minute. Mr. Heslin is in this business and knows it. My question is addressed to all three witnesses. Can those who have concerns about lay implanters share those concerns? Do they have concerns about data? Are they concerned about abuses of the system? They might share with us their take on this aspect of the matter.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: It could be done by a veterinary nurse, which would not incur the same expense.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: What would Mr. Heslin like us to take away in relation to lay implanters? What would he like to see happen? What controls are preferred? What would he like the committee to recommend?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: Do the other witnesses have views, concerns or recommendations regarding lay implanters?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: Is Mr. Savage aware of any abuses in this regard?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: Does Mr. Savage have concerns?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: Does Mr. McMullen have a similar view?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: I ask Mr. Savage to explain what he meant when he said: At Dogs.ie we pride ourselves on bringing a high level of trust and transparency to online pet sales. We have some additional systems and rules that go beyond the legal requirement. I ask Mr. Savage to tease out one or two of those additionalities. What makes Dogs.ie different or more special, on top of its governance issues? Mr....

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: I am conscious that my time is limited. Mr. Savage has said that 700 advertisements have been blocked. Can he give me two or three examples of advertisements that have been blocked? Can he outline the extent of the concern that Dogs.ie had that led to blocking in these 700 cases? That is a substantial number of advertisements.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: Is that the only concern or are there broader concerns? Is it just about the number and the registration process or are there bigger concerns?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: Mr. Savage told us that Dogs.ie offers "a free dog buying contract template to make sure all the right information is captured and exchanged". I would be interested in seeing that template. Would Mr. Savage be able to share it with the committee?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: I think it would be interesting. I would like to learn from that. The committee might like to learn something from it. If Mr. Savage would not mind, that would be great.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: Is it like a logbook?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture, Food and the Marine: Regulations and Verification Systems of Online Sales of Pets: Discussion (30 Mar 2022)

Victor Boyhan: If we could see the template, it would give us a greater understanding. I thank the witnesses, who have been very helpful, and the Chairman.

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