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Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Courts and Civil Law (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2022)

James Lawless: I welcome the Minister of State at the Department of Justice, Deputy James Browne, and his officials. I also welcome the members of the committee. The meeting has been convened to consider Committee Stage of the Courts and Civil Law (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022 and the Minister of State is here for that purpose. Some members may attend remotely and I ask everybody to note that if...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Courts and Civil Law (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2022)

James Lawless: Amendments Nos. 1 and 9 to 14, inclusive, are related and may be discussed together. All of the amendments are in the name of the Minister.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Courts and Civil Law (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2022)

James Lawless: Amendments Nos. 2 to 6, inclusive, 8 and 71 are related and may be discussed together. Some of the amendments are consequential on each other so we will see how it goes.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Courts and Civil Law (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2022)

James Lawless: Amendment No. 7 has been ruled out of order.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Courts and Civil Law (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2022)

James Lawless: Does Deputy Ó Ríordáin want to speak to amendment No. 8?

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Courts and Civil Law (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2022)

James Lawless: Amendments Nos. 15 to 27, inclusive, are related and may be discussed together. I do not think we have discussed those yet.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Courts and Civil Law (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2022)

James Lawless: Amendments Nos. 28 to 31, inclusive, and amendment No. 73 are related. There is a connection between them. It is a house cards. If one falls, they all do. We will take them one at a time.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Courts and Civil Law (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2022)

James Lawless: I echo Deputy Kenny's remarks. I am interested in the area myself. Deputy Kenny makes a good case - indeed, the Minister of State has been proactive in respect of it - in terms of whether the proposed amendments encompass supermarkets and places of retail. Is this the thinking behind the amendments in terms of rebalancing liability or the presumption of liability in respect of slips, falls...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Courts and Civil Law (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2022)

James Lawless: The issue of supermarkets is a live one. I understand from the Minister of State's comments that this amendment probably concerns rural scenarios, but slips and falls in supermarkets constitute a real cost to business. Deputy Kenny mentioned people going onto lands looking for trouble rather than a rural idyll. They might even be looking for a fall thinking there might be a windfall at...

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Courts and Civil Law (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2022)

James Lawless: Amendments Nos. 32 to 34, inclusive, are related and may be discussed together.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Courts and Civil Law (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2022)

James Lawless: That seems sensible.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Courts and Civil Law (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2022)

James Lawless: Amendment No. 35 is in the name of Deputy Ó Ríordáin but the member is not present.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Courts and Civil Law (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2022)

James Lawless: Amendments Nos. 36, 37 and 75 are related and may be discussed together.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Courts and Civil Law (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2022)

James Lawless: The courts will be busy with the Personal Injuries Assessment Board, PIAB, changes as well. We need more judges.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Courts and Civil Law (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2022)

James Lawless: Amendment Nos. 39 to 43, inclusive, are grouped for discussion purposes.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Courts and Civil Law (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2022)

James Lawless: Amendment Nos. 44 to 46, inclusive, will be taken together.

Select Committee on Justice and Equality: Courts and Civil Law (Miscellaneous Provisions) Bill 2022: Committee Stage (22 Nov 2022)

James Lawless: I can see it as being very practical, proactive and a welcome rule.

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