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Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: It would keep traffic off the road. I call Deputy Kelly.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: I call Deputy McAuliffe.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: Perhaps you could exchange some details later on that.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: Next is Deputy Verona Murphy.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: I will let Ms Graham back in in a minute.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: Give the witness a chance to answer.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: We have a lot of catching up to do. People will agree with that.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: I will come to the issue of the money now. I will revert to the spend to date on the metro north and MetroLink projects. Mr. Doocey from the Department stated that metro north is now a separate project. When I asked for clarification on this just after I started this meeting, Mr. Creegan clarified that €158 million was spent on the metro up to December 2023. Does that include the...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: I take on board Mr. Doocey's point that this was a policy decision and that the NTA is directed by policy. Let me clarify this. Is Mr. Creegan telling me that up to December of last year, we spent €308 million on a project that has not moved yet?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: The MetroLink project.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: Separate to that, we have spent €150 million on a project that is now over with. We are not going to do the metro north project.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: I accept that. That is €308 million up to December and we are nearly halfway through another year. I know Mr. Creegan has given me the figures as accurately as he can. I thank him for that. If I heard Mr. Creegan correctly, he said that the projected cost of MetroLink before the preparation work, the planning and everything else that has to be done - I understand there is a lot of...

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: So it will cost €300 million for MetroLink and we have blown €150 million on metro north. This will mean we will have spent almost €500 million on the metro to the airport before we even send a Himac or a JCB out to the site.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: Of course I have.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: I know this is a policy decision. I am not necessarily hammering the NTA on this issue. It is new to me that €450 million will be spent on the metro project without ever buying a carriage or a metre of rail line, and without sending a digger or somebody with a hard hat out to the site to work on the project.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: Does Mr. Doocey want to answer that?

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: This cost is astronomical.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: I accept that.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: We would have to debate that.

Public Accounts Committee: Financial Statements 2022: National Transport Authority (2 May 2024)

Brian Stanley: €150 million.

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