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Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (20 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: Twelve years before it is privatised.

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (20 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: I support Senator Wilson on this. I agree it is a mistake to abolish the town councils. It would have been better to put the question to the people by way of a referendum on whether they wished to see town councils abolished. My concern in regard to all town councils being abolished is that we are throwing the baby out with the bath water. There is no doubt the system needed reform and...

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (20 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: In Dungarvan in particular, there has been a very good relationship between the elected representatives of the town council, the county council and local organisations such as the Chamber of Commerce. The town has come on in leaps and bounds because of that association and because of that local democracy and the synergy that existed between the town council and the people who live in the...

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: Section 10 deals with the boundaries of the new local government areas of Limerick, Tipperary and Waterford. I would like to revisit our earlier discussion on the natural expansion of Waterford city. Does the Minister agree with the strong case that has been made consistently by Waterford City Council for the natural extension of Waterford city into parts of the south Kilkenny area? Why...

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: Yes. Did the Minister consider the matter? Did he study the report? Did he not agree with some of the recommendations in the report? Can he not see the sense and the logic underpinning those recommendations? Does he agree that these changes would be positive and good for the development of Waterford city?

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: I want to speak on this section for clarification purposes because our amendments were ruled out of order. I would like to be helpful to the Minister because he raised an issue about these amendments. Amendment No. 11 proposed that the Waterford county area should have 18 councillors. Amendment No. 12 separately proposed that the Waterford city area should also have 18 councillors....

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: The figure in our proposal is 1,165, whereas the figure in the Bill is 949. To be helpful and constructive, we suggested a more appropriate figure in the case of each of the cities and counties. We are not criticising and opposing the Minister for the sake of it. We are trying to ensure there is adequate elected representation across the board. We want to make sure the issue of...

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: -----it should correspond with the number of councillors we have in the North as well. It is important that we have a consistent all-island approach on these issues.

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: I do not want to rehearse the arguments.

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: We had a good decision on section 8 which dealt with the amalgamation of Waterford City and County Councils. I thank Senators Cummins and Landy for their positive contributions on Waterford city. I wish to comment on the Minister's one line response to the question on the core issue of whether a plebiscite was considered. He said that all things had been considered but I am being...

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: No, the Minister has not read my amendment correctly.

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: No, he did not.

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: No, there are two amendments.

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: The Minister did not read the second amendment.

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: No.

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: No, he did not.

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: We will deal with the amendments when we reach them.

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: I do not accept that statement from the Minister. As somebody who has driven from Youghal bridge to Passage East in Waterford on many occasions, I know that the journey is a fair distance. I do not think that he can-----

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: I do not know. I shall look it up on the AA route planner and get back to him with the information in a few minutes.

Seanad: Local Government Reform Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (19 Dec 2013)

David Cullinane: For example, Tallow town in County Waterford is a fair distance away from Passage East.

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