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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: I ask Deputy Burke to let the witness answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: I appreciate the witnesses coming before the committee and giving their time. It has been a comprehensive discussion. I apologise if I did not intervene quickly enough on behalf of the witnesses. There were some insinuations about their credibility on issues and I should have intervened more quickly. I appreciate their time. They have added to the debate. The meeting has certainly aired...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: We will now resume. Deputy Bríd Smith will be deputising for Deputy Gino Kenny, while Senators Higgins and Seery Kearney will be deputising for Senators Black and Kyne, respectively, today. For the next hour we will meet with Professor Shane Higgins, Master of the National Maternity Hospital; Dr. Jenny Walsh; Alice Murphy, solicitor; and Mr. Ronan Gavin. They are all very welcome. ...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: I thank Professor Higgins very much. This is when the messy part happens - the questions and answers. We are giving a four-minute slot to each questioner, which includes time for the answers. The witnesses should bear that in mind when giving their replies.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: Please, Senator.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: With respect, we do not have time to get into a question and answer session. I need to move back to members and I am trying to be as fair as possible.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: Deputy Lahart has run out of time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: Deputy Burke has asked a question and I ask him to let the witness answer.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: Hold on.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: I have to move on to Deputy Lahart.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: Professor Higgins will have to come in in response to one of the other members. Apologies. Deputy Shortall is next. I am trying to let everyone in and be fair to everyone.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: The Deputy is asking a lot of questions. We are running out of time.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: I call Deputy Bríd Smith.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: I have to move on. I call Senator Conway.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: We cannot ask to identify that legal person.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: Senator Hoey is next.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: New National Maternity Hospital: Discussion (Resumed) (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: We speak at the start of every meeting about identifying people.

Working Group of Committee Chairmen: Public Policy Matters: Engagement with the Taoiseach (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: In the past couple of weeks, we have seen a number of high-profile resignations with Dr. Tony Holohan, Dr. Ronan Glynn, and, in the last couple of days, the chief operating officer, COO, of the HSE signalling their intentions to leave their posts in the coming weeks. We all know the pandemic was an incredibly stressful time for all involved in public health. I would not fault anyone for...

Working Group of Committee Chairmen: Public Policy Matters: Engagement with the Taoiseach (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: I am sorry; I meant the maternity hospital. The committee was asking that we would be given the adequate time to try to bring in all the different people who are clamouring at the moment to try to get in. We are meeting today for four hours. We were talking about meeting on Friday for another number of hours. We are really racing against the clock here. It is not of our making. I can...

Working Group of Committee Chairmen: Public Policy Matters: Engagement with the Taoiseach (12 May 2022)

Seán Crowe: A decision was taken last week that the health committee would have a look at this. A week is not sufficient for anyone to look at the huge issues involved in this. This is an appeal that we are looking for additional time to try to cover the issues. We are being asked, presumably by the Cabinet, to air in public the concerns that people genuinely have on this issue.

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