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Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I am asking if major advertising groups benefited from that barter account, which was technically not going through the RTÉ system?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: It is now.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: It was not going through in the sense that RTÉ's CFO was not aware of the barter account. The previous chair of the board was not aware of the existence of the barter account.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I know the way it works but I am raising a question about the decision-making in the use of that money. Were there people who benefited within their companies by putting major advertising in the way of RTÉ and then getting benefits from that barter account?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I am saying that in the use of the barter account, did people, say from the national lottery, benefit from that barter account in real terms, without it being fully accountable within finance in RTÉ?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: Can I move on to-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I want to move on to the issue of Breda O'Keeffe. Who made the final decision about the package she got? Who signed off on it? The cheque had to be paid out and someone had to sign the cheque so someone had to sign off on it.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: Someone signed the cheque.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: Someone gave the instruction.

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: The then-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: Was any other third party involved?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: Would people involved in the processing not raise a question as regards what-----

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: Were questions raised?

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I raised this issue of agreements and side letters at the start. Mr. Bakhurst has now given a clear commitment that he wants everything to be included in agreements, which was always my understanding of contracts. Is there going to be an examination of existing agreements with staff which include side letters? Will everything be put into one document for everyone, rather than having a...

Public Accounts Committee: Appropriation and Expenditure of Public Moneys by RTÉ (Resumed): RTÉ (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: Will Mr. Bakhurst give a commitment that RTÉ will stick to one agreement?

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I thank Shane for all the help he has given to me, and all the other members of the committee as well, since I joined it. Without his help, it would have been far more difficult to deal with the issues coming up. He has made our job that much easier. I thank him for the work. Likewise, I wish Katherine every success in her new role and wish Shane every success in his new role as well.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: My understanding was that some of those payments were back payments to consultants where there was a dispute going on about the level of pay and as a result, all of that pay came in together. None of the contracts are on that kind of basis, even for overtime. There is an upper limit. My understanding is that there are basic contracts where a high fee is paid and then there is a number in...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: The fact is that there is a set upper figure in the contract for what you can get in overtime. Therefore, it cannot be overtime. Say you are on a one and two rota, for example. By the end of March you will have used up all of your overtime. In other words, even if you come in and do extra hours after that you will not get paid for it, even though you have to come in because of the service...

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: One problem with the contracts is the variations that are occurring in the middle of contracts.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (13 Jul 2023)

Colm Burke: I know but what I am saying is that----

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