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Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I welcome amendment No. 83 and thank the Minister for moving it.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: If a medical procedure was carried out by a hospital following a review, the hospital would be required automatically under the Act to send a notification to the Minister, similar to the notification we are inserting in section 18. There will be no need to reiterate in amendment No. 83 that this will be in sections 7, 8, 9 and 13.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I would like the Minister to clarify something. I cannot see where it is set out in the Bill that notifications for the registration of medical practitioners who will carry out procedures under the reviews will be provided to the Minister. Can the Minister tell me where that is provided for in the Bill?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I want to speak on amendments Nos. 69 and 73. I welcome the Minister's amendments. Amendment No. 73 refers to confidentiality, which is important. With the indulgence of the Chairman, I want to make reference to amendment No. 83, which is relevant. Deputy Ciara Conway referred to the registration numbers of medical practitioners. There appears to be an inconsistency in this regard....

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I wish to raise a point in the interest of consistency. Section 13(6) states: "In subsection (3) “jointly certify”, in relation to the review committee, means that all of the members of the committee make the section 13 certification concerned." That provides clarity on "jointly certify", but that paragraph does not appear in sections 7, 8 and 9. For the sake of consistency...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I see that in sections 7(1)(b) and 9(1)(b) but section 13(6) refers to jointly certify in respect of section 13 overall.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I am not seeking that. I am just raising the technical point. Section 13(3) provides that the committee shall, subject to section 19, jointly certify, and subsection (6) states what jointly certify means. If that paragraph was also included in sections 7, 8 and 9 it would give absolute clarity about what "jointly certify" means in those sections as well.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I am sorry, but in sections 7 and 9.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Perhaps the Minister will consider it.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I have a very quick question for the Minister. Can we take it that if the four bodies put forward their nominations and if those people meet the professional qualifications requirement, they will be appointed to the review panel?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: That is enough.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I wish to say a few things. I apologise for rushing out. I beg the committee's indulgence and ask for a quick response to my query on clinical guidelines. My question is on section 9.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Sorry, I thought we were debating the section.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I ask the Minister to update us on the clinical director issue.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Sorry, I misunderstood as I had to leave. I beg the Minister's indulgence and ask him to repeat his reply because I did not hear him. Can I have a general outline on a clinical director?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Are consultations ongoing?

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I thank the Minister.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I know that but I am asking the question on that basis.

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: That is my first point. Second, looking at the wording in amendment No. 32 - "having examined the pregnant woman" - we have not discussed the issue of clinical guidelines to which the Minister referred in his speech. I do not see the clinical guidelines mentioned in the legislation. The Minister might give us an update as to how that will tie in with what he stated on Second Stage, that...

Committee on Health and Children: Select Sub-Committee on Health: Protection of Life During Pregnancy Bill 2013: Committee Stage (Resumed) (3 Jul 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: One is a legal question and one is on the clinical guidelines.

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