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Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: Dr. Lynch will understand that I am an elected politician and not an expert on this, but I am getting a little frustrated now. I am hearing that we are only talking about a segment of cases involving vulnerable children that are heard in public. There could be many a case involving a child in an in cameracourt, a family law court or the juvenile court. Is there a guardian ad litemappointed...

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: I will ask Dr. Lynch to come back to the committee on this. Will he come back to us with a report explaining to us who looks after vulnerable children in the Irish Courts Service? That is the job of his Department and Tusla.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: We have had a long discussion, and I think 90% of the people had assumed we would cover vulnerable children in the courts. We are only now hearing the guardian ad litemservice does not cover juvenile courts or family law courts, that these experts will be established, that families who possibly cannot afford to pay for their legal costs in the family law courts are being told to pay for...

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: Whatever legislation the Department is bringing forward, if it does not deal with all vulnerable children before the courts, it is only part of the issue. I ask the Department to look at the bigger picture. Maybe I am getting everything wrong here, but from what I am hearing, we are only touching one aspect of this.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: Custody.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: Those issues can be as important to the children-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: I ask Dr. Lynch to talk to me about the juvenile court. That involves the State. It involves the State prosecuting children-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: -----in family courts.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: However, they are normal professional solicitors.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: They may not have any specialist ability-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: -----to deal with children of 15 or 16 years of age. Are they not covered by the guardian ad litem service at all?

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: I ask Deputy Connolly to bear with me for a minute. She understands-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: She is probably surprised at our level of-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: These public family law-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: When we talk about public family law proceedings, we are not talking about cases in public.

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: The committee will understand my misunderstanding. I know there are learned people who represent a small percentage within the system and who understand this, but if I as a Deputy read about public family law proceedings, I only come to one conclusion, that it is a public family law proceeding, not involving-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: I understand that, but-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: -----to go back to the juvenile court, the State is involved in those cases-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: -----and there is no guardian ad litem-----

Public Accounts Committee: Report of the Accounts of the Public Services 2015
Chapter 11 - Guardian Ad Litem Service
(19 Jan 2017)

Seán Fleming: They are public hearings.

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