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Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 22 - Eligibility for Medical Cards
(14 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Thank you. May we publish the statement?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 22 - Eligibility for Medical Cards
(14 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I wish to deal with a number of issues specific to medical cards. As Deputies on the ground, we know a major issue for constituents is the discretionary medical card. Having read the material provided, it can be said about people with discretionary medical cards without fear of contradiction that they are seriously ill, as they would not have qualified for the discretionary medical card...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 22 - Eligibility for Medical Cards
(14 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: It is very simple for us. For the general public looking at this, and particularly those on discretionary medical cards, it is apparent that these were given on the basis of a serious medical condition. I am basing my assumptions on the HSE figures. At the start of January there were 63,136 and at the end of September there 52,733, which is a change of 10,393. Is that correct?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 22 - Eligibility for Medical Cards
(14 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: This was provided to the committee by the Department of Health. The numbers are on the screen.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 22 - Eligibility for Medical Cards
(14 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: No-----

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 22 - Eligibility for Medical Cards
(14 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I have limited time and I understand from where the witnesses are coming.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 22 - Eligibility for Medical Cards
(14 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I am making a different point, which is very simple. Of the 10,393 people, 6,282 got GP visit cards, with an increase in GP visit cards as there is a direct correlation between a reduction in medical cards and their change to GP visit cards. Of the 45,000 withdrawn medical cards, a quarter came from discretionary medical cards, but those cards only make up 0.3% of the total number of...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 22 - Eligibility for Medical Cards
(14 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I thank Dr. Ambrose. May the committee publish his statement?

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 22 - Eligibility for Medical Cards
(14 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I now invite Mr. Tony O'Brien, CEO of the HSE, to make his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 22 - Eligibility for Medical Cards
(14 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I welcome everyone. Before we begin, I remind members and witnesses to turn off their mobile telephones, as the interference from them affects the sound quality and transmission of the meeting. I advise witnesses that they are protected by absolute privilege in respect of the evidence they are to give to this committee. If they are directed by the committee to cease giving evidence in...

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 22 - Eligibility for Medical Cards
(14 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I welcome Mr. Tony O'Brien, director general of the HSE. I ask him to introduce his officials.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 22 - Eligibility for Medical Cards
(14 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I also welcome the representative from the Department of Public Expenditure and Reform. He might introduce himself.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 22 - Eligibility for Medical Cards
(14 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I welcome all of the witnesses to this important session of the committee. I now call on the Comptroller and Auditor General to introduce the accounts.

Public Accounts Committee: 2012 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General
Chapter 22 - Eligibility for Medical Cards
(14 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I now ask Dr. McLoughlin to make his opening statement.

Public Accounts Committee: Business of Committee (14 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: The committee's role is to get value for the public purse. From that perspective, would it be in order to call in the Governor to discuss Newbridge Credit Union? He visits once or twice a year. We should do so on the basis of the potential cost to the State. We should take it from that perspective, linking with what Deputy Shane Ross said.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Forthcoming ECOFIN Council: Discussion with Minister for Finance (13 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is that for the banking union?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Forthcoming ECOFIN Council: Discussion with Minister for Finance (13 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Could there be circumstances where there would be a cost to the Irish taxpayer?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Forthcoming ECOFIN Council: Discussion with Minister for Finance (13 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Is that in respect of the cost to the taxpayer?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Forthcoming ECOFIN Council: Discussion with Minister for Finance (13 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: Could I just have clarification in respect of the-----

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Finance, Public Expenditure and Reform: Forthcoming ECOFIN Council: Discussion with Minister for Finance (13 Nov 2013)

Kieran O'Donnell: I thank the Minister and his colleagues. We are all concerned about the cost to the taxpayer. In that context, does the Minister anticipate a cost to Irish taxpayers in regard to the single resolution mechanism and single bank resolution fund? When does the Minister anticipate retrospective recapitalisation will happen? When will the banking union be in place that will allow the type of...

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