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Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Okay. Mr. Kelly was following instruction.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Therefore, did he collude with RTÉ in a falsehood of concealment of those invoices by labelling them as consultancy fees? That is a straightforward question.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Mr. Kelly said he was following instruction.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Did he, therefore, collude with RTÉ in a falsehood of concealment by describing those invoices as consultancy fees?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: These were fraudulent accounting practices.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Mr. Kelly followed instruction, however. Alarm bells were never raised with him when representing his client with regard to these invoices?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: With regard to the invoices-----

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: The former chief financial officer, CFO, described these as defrauding the taxpayer in his opinion. Does Mr. Kelly agree with that assessment?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Does Mr. Kelly still see these invoices as being related to consultancy fees?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: They were as instructed. What were they for? What was the nature of them?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Did they describe what they were intended for?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Does Mr. Kelly accept the complete lack of credibility in invoicing a company he had never heard of in a different country for work undertaken in Dublin?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Mr. Kelly is not taking any responsibility for the oversight of Mr. Tubridy's earnings with regard to what we have been told in this committee room.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Is Mr. Kelly taking any responsibility in respect of the oversight of the dealings with Mr. Tubridy in relation to these invoices? He said he followed instructions from RTÉ.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: His responsibility is on behalf of his client. Did he not proof-test each of the steps that were required?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Mr. Tubridy in his statement emphasised the importance of the full truth and stated that the full truth was concealed. In his opinion, and after what we have heard from Mr. Kelly, who does he believe was responsible for concealing the truth?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Does Mr. Tubridy think his agent colluded with RTÉ to conceal these payments?

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Mr. Tubridy's earnings went up by €75,000 in 2020, credited from Renault on a side deal, and he then received another €150,000 in 2022 underwritten at the request of RTÉ.

Public Accounts Committee: RTÉ Commercial Arrangements: Mr. Ryan Tubridy and Mr. Noel Kelly (11 Jul 2023)

Alan Dillon: Am I missing something here? Between April 2020 and July 2020, when we were in the middle of a pandemic, Mr. Tubridy took a 20% pay cut on his contract, which was signed on 1 April. These side deals were undertaken at a time when the country was going through huge difficulty and Mr. Tubridy feels these payments should not have been put into the public domain.

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