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Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Is Ms Noonan saying that if somebody from a farming background survives ten years in a nursing home, under the fair deal scheme, 70% of their farm is gone on debt? I understand that. People talked about the three-year cap but it is only very specific. That is the point Deputy Aylward is getting very concerned about. Is there double counting in the farming community if their income is...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: We want to clarify this situation. Is Ms Noonan saying that in a farm situation in which there is an elderly farmer whose son is working the farm, earning the income and supporting his generation, who will inherit the farm, if the father has not signed it over at this point-----

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: They look at recent transfers. When the father passes away in the nursing home after ten years, his farm is gone and has been taken out from under the son who has been farming it.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: The Department has been doing a review. Ms Noonan talked about what is ultimately handed over. The value of the house is handed over for Revenue to ultimately collect. Can Ms Noonan give us a breakdown of what is handed over to Revenue to collect in respect of family homes and separately in respect of other assets such as farm assets? How much has been handed over to Revenue to collect...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Members may want to ask more questions. The breakdown of people being provided for under the scheme has 80% in private institutions and 20% in HSE institutions. In the past couple of years, a couple of hundred beds have come out of the system and there is no great plan to increase numbers dramatically; there may even be a few more restrictions, depending on the refurbishments that must take...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: I get the point. The witnesses have referred to people living in their own property and payments ultimately being made to the Chief State Solicitor if nobody can be found. How much has been transferred to the Chief State Solicitor's account from the patient property fund? The witnesses have twice mentioned where this goes if we cannot track anyone, saying that as a last resort, it is...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: It does not go through the HSE and it would not necessarily know about it.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: The witnesses might send us a note on that. They might have to consult with the Chief State Solicitor.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Okay.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: There would be more than the HSE in that.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: What is the name of the account?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: If it is laid before the Oireachtas we will ask for it to be circulated to members during the week so we can have a look at it.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: It does not cover it.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: We will get a copy of the information. Another point has been mentioned in passing regarding people in long-term care. There are many people in long-term care in the disabilities sector or psychiatric services. They may not come under the scheme we are discussing. Will the witnesses comment on the people in the care of the HSE not covered by the nursing home support scheme? There must be...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: No, I am talking about the nursing home support scheme.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: The public might think we are covering the entire population of people in long-term, permanent HSE accommodation. We will probably ask the witnesses to send us a note on what other categories of people are not included in this scheme. We seem to have missed out on that. I know it is outside the nursing home scheme but there are people in long-term care in institutions. How is the HSE...

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is probably from where I am coming. How much relates to residential care?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: How much is being spent on nursing home support?

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: There is as much money allocated for long-term residential care of those with disabilities as for nursing home support.

Public Accounts Committee: HSE's Patients' Private Property Accounts 2015
HSE Financial Statement 2015: Note 13 re Fair Deal Scheme
Health Repayments Scheme Donations Fund 2015 (9 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: I ask Mr. Healy to provide a detailed note on this issue because when a committee such as the Committee of Public Accounts examines these issues we often mistakenly believe we are capturing the full picture. The amount spent on long-term residential care for disabled people may be similar to the amount spent on the fair deal scheme. We do not often discuss this topic, which is probably...