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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: I was referring to the fact that over the ten years we never reached the 1.8% average rate that other countries did yet we have a higher instance of cervical cancer. If we are getting lower detection rates back but getting a higher number of actual diagnoses, did Dr. Holohan not flag a problem over the ten years?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: Why did we not reach the average other countries reached?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: That was only in one year. That was the first year. However, while it did go up in subsequent years and hovered around a rate of 1.4%, it never went up to a rate of 1.8%. That is a significant difference in average from other countries that do the test differently. I refer to our nearest neighbour, the National Health Service, NHS, for example.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: Some women waited seven years for the results.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: Would Mr. O'Brien just answer the question as to whether every slide is looked at by two technicians.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: The witness is satisfied every single slide is?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: We will hear about it ourselves then.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: This is a really important point of order. Mr. O'Brien has said that the cervical screening is only 70% accurate, that is really serious. When I checked the website it says there is a small risk.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: Sorry it is extremely important for that to be clarified Chair because there is a 30% risk that a test does not mean anything. That is not accurate, the witness is trying to backpedal.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: The website said there is a small risk, not a 30% risk.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: Can the witness clarify what the detection rate of this screening is?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: No it has not Chair.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: It is 70%.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: That is not 30% which the witness said earlier.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: -----may not be accurate.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: It does not say 70%.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: Something important has just come up that the Chair should be concerned about in his capacity as Chair of the process.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: Can I suggest that we should get the answer on that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Health: National Cervical Screening Programme: Department of Health, HSE, CervicalCheck and the National Cancer Control Programme (2 May 2018)

Ruth Coppinger: Is that in America or here?

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