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Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: The Deputy's time is up.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Does that cover the July scheme? Certain schools remain open for the month of July. Sometimes when the school does not provide it, children with special needs can receive home tuition for the July period also.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Loftus might confirm the position and send us a note. He knows the programme I am talking about.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: That question has been answered.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: That is a political debate. Mr. Ó Foghlú need not get into the Deputy's description.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Mr. Mannion will answer. If Mr. Ó Foghlú says there is a connection to him, I can understand that it is probably more appropriate to stand back in fairness to everybody.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: However, we are concluding quickly on this point because representatives of that institute will be appearing before the committee.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: You certainly can. Mr. Mannion, this is the last point on this issue. Then I will call Deputy Madigan.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: I am going to move on. The Deputy will have a further opportunity to return to this. I call Deputy Madigan.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: The service is not provided in every school.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: I understand schools have been informed in recent days of a new allocation based on resources.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Did NEPS have a role in that regard?

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: NEPS had a role. Will Mr. Ó Foghlú confirm that under this new arrangement, parents do not have the right to make an appeal? This is related to the issue raised by Deputy Catherine Connolly. In the past few days schools have been informed that parents do not have a right of appeal.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: It must come through the principal of the school rather than the parent.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Has NEPS a role with the special needs assistants? That is being separated under this new scheme. The SNAs are separate from the new allocation.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: We have NEPS dealing with schools on SNAs and the special education section dealing with resource teachers.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: The SNAs will.

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: Does the Department understand how utterly confusing this is from the point of view of a parent with a child with some special need? The parent is told NEPS has a role relating to one aspect and special education has a role in another. The Department must appreciate that it makes life very complicated for stressed parents, and they are all stressed when they have to deal with these issues....

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: I apologise to Deputy Connolly but I will return to her. What about parents who were unable to get it through the one or two that were provided to the schools? Parents who could afford to spend the €500, €600 or €700 were able to get a NEPS assessment in the private sector and return to the school and it was accepted. That was fine for those who could afford it, but...

Public Accounts Committee: 2015 Annual Report of the Comptroller and Auditor General and Appropriation Accounts
Vote 26 - Education and Skills
(23 Mar 2017)

Seán Fleming: I will hand back to Deputy Connolly. It is a minefield.

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