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Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: The consequences of this legislation. Obviously not.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Okay. That is grand. The Department said it looked at 85,000 prescriptions. A total of 84,915 have come in. Does that not give the Department an indication that it needs to wait until next January at least to see what the balance is and that it cannot jump in? At the moment, there are 84,915 to the vets, 85 to the merchants. Does that not worry the Department? Should it not wait...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: There are no consequences for the job.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: "Yes" or "No" is all I want.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Why not?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Except that farmers will be paying for a prescription.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: What are Ms Garvan's thoughts?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Okay. That is more money. Has the Department engaged with the responsible person?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: When and where did it do that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Why has the responsible person been accepted by the EU in Northern Ireland but not here in southern Ireland?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Yes.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Why are they allowed to in Northern Ireland? They are part of the EU as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Yes. They are part of the EU as well.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: I did not ask that question. I am asking about the responsible person.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: But how do you balance it? At the moment, you can buy a calf and you have to buy milk replacer and meal off them. You have to do everything right up along until that calf goes to wherever it is going. They are a totally different outfit from the small merchant down the country that you run into to get the dosing stuff, or a pharmacy. How do we balance that?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Does the Department accept that it will be more expensive on farmers from now on?

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: In the North they can.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: No. It was in the UK because the UK had done something our Department did not do. Is there any possibility the Department will go back to Europe to ask if there is any upskilling, be it through veterinary nurses or the responsible person? Is there any hope the Department will talk to them about trying to resolve that issue? That needs doing. Will there be a resolution - we have talked...

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: Even though they can do it in Northern Ireland this minute, and it is in the EU. They can do it if they are the responsible person, but we cannot.

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Agriculture and Food: Impacts of the Veterinary Medicinal Products, Medicated Feed and Fertilisers Regulation Act 2023: Discussion (11 Jun 2025)

Michael Fitzmaurice: If I get a faecal egg count, I have to go to the local vet and do all that. If I go to the vet in January or February and ask for a dose for fluke or worms, I can get it from a distance. What is going to resolve that issue? That seems to be a major stumbling block at the moment.

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