Dáil debates

Thursday, 18 January 2024

Saincheisteanna Tráthúla - Topical Issue Debate

Small and Medium Enterprises

4:40 pm

Photo of Robert TroyRobert Troy (Longford-Westmeath, Fianna Fail)
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I thank the Ceann Comhairle for accepting this issue for debate and I thank the Minister of State, Deputy Neale Richmond, for coming to the House.

We are all very aware of high-profile closures in the past number of weeks. I will focus on one in my constituency and a communication I received from another business in my constituency. The Corner House Bistro was a hugely popular restaurant in Athlone. The owners, Linda and Joe Connolly, decided to close it doors a couple of weeks ago with the loss of jobs for 20 staff. The owner of the Wholesome Kitchen in Mullingar, a restaurant in my constituency, wrote to me earlier in the week stating:

I'm writing to you in relation to the new measures that have been and are being introduced which massively increase operating costs for small businesses ... I'm incredibly worried that a lot of businesses will not be able to sustain such high costs, with too much introduced all at once ... We employ a total of 40 people locally, we're very lucky that WK is a successful and profitable business, however it cannot absorb these costs.

The writer goes on to outline what these additional costs will be: a VAT rate increase will contribute a cost of €82,500 per annum; payroll due to minimum wage increase and work permit increases will be €47,300 per annum; sick pay benefits €11,400 per annum; auto-enrolment pension payments are €12,800 per annum; and extra public holiday pay will be €3,200 per annum. Food and packaging costs continue to increase and energy costs are still massively inflated. That is the situation for the Wholesome Kitchen, and I have the owner's permission to raise it on the floor of the Dáil this evening.

I have spoken with industry representatives. They say that only downward communication comes from the Department and that the Department only seems to be engaged when it reaches crisis point. We have been promised a report by the Minister of State's Department on the cumulative impact of labour costs but it is yet to be published. Is there a recognition that changes in Government policy to sick pay, minimum wage, and pension auto-enrolment are contributing to the increases? All of these are important and need to be done but do they need to be done all at once?

The energy grant has been discontinued, despite the fact that energy costs are still much higher now than a number of years ago. There is also the VAT increase. I could understand this in regard to accommodation but not so much in regard to food. Businesses are facing a huge issue on 1 May when they must restructure or signify how they will pay their debt warehousing. I welcome the commitment by the Minister for Finance, Deputy McGrath, earlier this week that there will be flexibility in this regard and changes. I ask that this flexibility and the proposed changes are published without delay because these business need certainty. They are making decisions on what they are going to do and how they are to survive over the next number of months. The Minister of State has met the Restaurants Association of Ireland, RAI, which I welcome. It has published a five-point plan. To its credit, the Government announced a business support scheme in the budget in October but that was October and we are now halfway through January and still waiting full details of that. Businesses are still waiting to receive that grant.

I hope that in his reply the Minister of State will outline how the Government will publish those grants and when businesses can receive them. Will he consider a VAT reduction, particularly for the food side of the hospitality sector?

Photo of Verona MurphyVerona Murphy (Wexford, Independent)
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I thank the Deputy.

Photo of Robert TroyRobert Troy (Longford-Westmeath, Fianna Fail)
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Will the Minister of State ensure a communications-----

Photo of Verona MurphyVerona Murphy (Wexford, Independent)
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The Deputy can come back in.

Photo of Robert TroyRobert Troy (Longford-Westmeath, Fianna Fail)
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-----campaign is undertaken to make people aware of the small company administrative rescue process, SCARP, that is available for sustainable businesses to restructure?

Photo of Neale RichmondNeale Richmond (Dublin Rathdown, Fine Gael)
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I am very grateful to the Deputy for raising what is an extremely topical issue. It gives me an opportunity to provide an update and some clarity on what has been done and is being done, and, more importantly, what will be done. Fundamentally, we recognise that small businesses are facing a number of acute challenges, particularly those businesses in the hospitality sector and others to some extent in the retail sector, largely due to rising energy costs, inflation and the fact that we have a very tight labour market.

It would be remiss of me not to mention the very many policy and legislative changes that have come from this House and from this Government, with the full backing of industry representatives, workers groups and all political parties. Indeed, most political parties say that we are not going far enough in the increase of the minimum wage, the increase in paid sick leave, and everything else that goes with that. We are, however, not blind to those costs. We are not just saying that these costs simply have to be borne by businesses.

On the point or the charge from industry that communication is top down, I quite frankly reject that. As the Deputy mentioned, the Minister, Deputy Coveney, and my own team met the RAI yesterday. That meeting did not come out of the blue. We get contact from them on a weekly basis and we have meetings with them every month where we all sit around the table. Between the retail forum and the enterprise and entrepreneurship forum, we speak to business representative groups on a monthly basis. We have all been well flagged on the changes we are moving towards when it comes to a living wage and sick leave. Again, this does not mean we blind to the impact. The Deputy referred to a cost exercise carried out by the Government, which was completed just before Christmas, on quantifying the cumulative costs to businesses by the measures taken through legislation. Of course, that exercise did not happen in isolation. It brought all stakeholders around the table to feed into it. I believe the work has been substantially carried out but I have not yet seen the final report. I do not believe it has reached the Minister yet. All of these things have to be independently verified from an economics point of view. The minute we receive it we will act on its basis. I know the top-line figures, or the explanatory memorandum - even though I would not use that term - is that the measures brought in can be absorbed by the vast majority of businesses. There are, however, particularly acute pressures on the high-labour, low-margin sectors, with particular reference to the hospitality area and certain parts of the retail sector.

I now turn to the increased cost of business scheme that was announced in budget 2024. The scheme is worth €257 million and will benefit businesses that paid up to €30,000 in commercial rates last year. It will give them a cash injection of up to €5,000. While this is not designed to ease all burdens on small business, it is an easy and accessible cash injection that will be very welcome to businesses. It will be paid out during the first quarter this year through the local authorities. We are using the local authorities because it is the easiest way to make a direct payment and it is the easiest way to quantify it directly into an account based on commercial rates paid last year. It is not a commercial rates rebate or anything like that. It is merely using that as a calculating method and a direct payment method into accounts. This will help up to 90% of predominantly small and medium businesses across the country.

The Deputy also raised the issue of tax warehousing. It is a major issue for business at the moment. The Revenue deadline of 1 May is fast approaching like the sword of Damocles dangling over far too many businesses. I assure the Deputy that the Minister for Finance is actively engaging with Revenue on the scheme to see what can be done to help businesses in this regard. A proposal is currently being developed and will be finalised in the next two weeks in respect of flexibility. While we recognise the debts must be paid, we do not want to see businesses come through the pandemic only just to close. A couple of other issues were raised and I will deal with them in my further response.

Photo of Robert TroyRobert Troy (Longford-Westmeath, Fianna Fail)
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I welcome the Minister of State's reply. I do not for one minute question his commitment in his role, which I acknowledge. I am only relaying the frustration that is felt out there by the industry. I welcome the Minister of State engaging with them. It is important that we retain this ongoing engagement with industry. Will he convey to the Minister the need for certainty around the flexibility of the debt warehousing date in order that businesses can plan for the future?

The report on the cumulative increase in business costs is imminent. If the report shows that the cumulative costs are prohibitive, can we have a commitment that the Government will look at how it can stage these introductions to enable businesses to meet these costs in a sustainable manner? We need to see the increased cost of business grant rolled out as soon as possible. As the Minister of State acknowledged, it is not the panacea but it will help.

Energy costs need to be looked at again. They have not fallen at the same rate as they rose. Many businesses that are highly dependent on energy need additional supports for another period of time. I have given an example of a very successful business which is telling me it is worried about how these increased costs are coming down the track. It is a good business because it provides a quality service with quality staff. We need to listen to it.

The VAT reduction on the food element of the hospitality sector should be looked at to protect restaurants and cafés that are open. When I was fortunate enough to serve in the Department I introduced the small company administrative rescue process. It was an administrative restructuring facility for small viable businesses. I do not think many businesses are aware that the facility exists. I encourage the Minister of State and departmental officials to carry out a communication campaign so that sustainable businesses which are burdened with high costs can carry out a restructure and make sure they protect themselves and their jobs.

4:50 pm

Photo of Neale RichmondNeale Richmond (Dublin Rathdown, Fine Gael)
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A number of weeks ago I was very lucky to meet the proprietors of Wholesome Kitchen in Mullingar when I visited the local enterprise office. Deputy Troy was on paternity leave at that time so we were not able to meet together. I know it is a wonderful business providing good employment. I can tell the Deputy it is good food as well because I was in a position to sample a bit. This is why I want to use it as an example of looking at the various options open to us.

With regard to debt warehousing, I very much hope that, as Deputy Troy has asked, we will get clarity on this in the next fortnight. That is a fair ask. With regard to the increased cost of business scheme, it will be completely paid out by the end of the first quarter of this year. It includes every local authority in the State.

With regard to energy, one of the big issues with TBESS was, as Deputy Troy knows, that unfortunately far too many people did not access it. They did not apply for it because it was deemed too burdensome. This is why we are using a different methodology to get grants through the increased cost of business scheme without the need for filling in too much frameworking.

Industry engagement will be maintained. I fully agree with Deputy Troy that the VAT rate for food-based businesses should be looked at. It was considered when the temporary measure was relieved. It was seen in the overall package that took in the entire hospitality sector, and the cost cumulatively for the economy was approximately €450 million. Sadly, too many businesses were simply doing too well and others were not in a position to be represented. I take Deputy Troy's point on board. It is something we discussed yesterday with the Restaurants Association of Ireland. If I have missed anything, I will come back to the Deputy.

With regard to the staged introduction of measures, to be frank, I am very reluctant to go down that path. The indicative response from the report we commissioned showed the vast majority of businesses can take these changes. It is very important that we increase the minimum wage this year and that we move towards the living wage, which is something we all committed to in the programme for Government, and that, equally, we increase sick pay again next year. In sectors where there is an adverse effect, there are other measures we can look at. We acknowledge that the Government is putting a burden on businesses to make very much needed societal changes. For this reason, the Government needs to step up to the plate, be it through taxation or other measures.