Dáil debates

Thursday, 21 November 2019

Hospital Overcrowding: Motion (Resumed) [Private Members]

 

The following motion was moved by Deputy Stephen Donnelly on Wednesday, 20 November 2019:

Debate resumed on amendment No. 1:

-(Minister for Health)

1:10 pm

Photo of Seán Ó FearghaílSeán Ó Fearghaíl (Kildare South, Ceann Comhairle)
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I must now deal with a postponed division relating to amendment No. 1 to the motion regarding hospital overcrowding. On Wednesday, 20 November 2019, on the question that amendment No. 1 to the motion be agreed to, a division was claimed and in accordance with Standing Order 70(2), that division must be taken now.

Amendment put:

The Dáil divided: Tá, 39; Níl, 66; Staon, 0.


Tellers: Tá, Deputies Seán Kyne and Tony McLoughlin; Níl, Deputies Michael Moynihan and John Lahart.

Maria Bailey, Seán Barrett, Colm Brophy, Richard Bruton, Peter Burke, Catherine Byrne, Seán Canney, Ciarán Cannon, Joe Carey, Marcella Corcoran Kennedy, Simon Coveney, Michael Creed, Michael D'Arcy, Pat Deering, Regina Doherty, Paschal Donohoe, Andrew Doyle, Bernard Durkan, Alan Farrell, Charles Flanagan, Brendan Griffin, Simon Harris, Heather Humphreys, Paul Kehoe, Seán Kyne, Finian McGrath, Joe McHugh, Tony McLoughlin, Mary Mitchell O'Connor, Hildegarde Naughton, Tom Neville, Kate O'Connell, Fergus O'Dowd, John Paul Phelan, Michael Ring, Noel Rock, Shane Ross, David Stanton, Katherine Zappone.

Níl

Bobby Aylward, Mick Barry, Richard Boyd Barrett, Declan Breathnach, Tommy Broughan, Joan Burton, Mary Butler, Thomas Byrne, Jackie Cahill, Dara Calleary, Shane Cassells, Michael Collins, Niall Collins, Catherine Connolly, Ruth Coppinger, Barry Cowen, John Curran, Pearse Doherty, Stephen Donnelly, Timmy Dooley, Dessie Ellis, Michael Fitzmaurice, Peter Fitzpatrick, Pat Gallagher, Noel Grealish, Michael Harty, Seán Haughey, Séamus Healy, Alan Kelly, Gino Kenny, Martin Kenny, John Lahart, Michael Lowry, Marc MacSharry, Catherine Martin, Micheál Martin, Charlie McConalogue, Mattie McGrath, Michael McGrath, Denise Mitchell, Aindrias Moynihan, Michael Moynihan, Imelda Munster, Margaret Murphy O'Mahony, Catherine Murphy, Eugene Murphy, Paul Murphy, Carol Nolan, Darragh O'Brien, Jim O'Callaghan, Willie O'Dea, Kevin O'Keeffe, Fiona O'Loughlin, Frank O'Rourke, Jan O'Sullivan, Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin, Éamon Ó Cuív, Aengus Ó Snodaigh, Willie Penrose, Thomas Pringle, Anne Rabbitte, Brendan Ryan, Brendan Smith, Bríd Smith, Niamh Smyth, Robert Troy.

Amendment declared lost.

1:20 pm

Photo of Caoimhghín Ó CaoláinCaoimhghín Ó Caoláin (Cavan-Monaghan, Sinn Fein)
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I move amendment No. 2:

To delete all words after “Dáil Éireann” and substitute the following:

“notes:

- that so far this year, more than 100,000 patients have gone without a hospital bed, waiting on trolleys in emergency departments;

- that to the end of October this year, 13,466 people over 75 years of age have endured emergency department waits of more than 24-hours, a third more than for the same period in 2018;

- that October was the second-worst month for hospital overcrowding since records began;

- that Fine Gael have had eight years to address the overcrowding crisis, but the number of patients on trolleys have gotten worse year on year, as follows: - 2012 - 66,308;

- 2013 - 67,863;

- 2014 - 77,091;

- 2015 - 92,998;

- 2016 - 93,621;

- 2017 - 98,981;

- 2018 - 108,227; and

- 2019 (to date) – 100,000 plus; - that in four of these years, 2016, 2017, 2018 and 2019, Fianna Fáil have been in a confidence and supply arrangement with the Fine Gael Government, and have agreed and facilitated Fine Gael Budgets which have had a catastrophic impact on the health service;

- the warning from the master of the Rotunda Hospital that it is ‘only a matter of time’ before newborn babies are injured or die as a result of overcrowding;

- the Irish Association of Emergency Medicine has calculated that there could be between 300 and 350 excess patient deaths each year due to the trolley crisis and emergency unit overcrowding;

- the increase in the mortality rate from sepsis;

- the numbers presenting to emergency departments are rising;

- that emergency department overcrowding is linked to increased mortality and poorer outcomes for patients; and

- that delays in emergency departments result in poor patient experiences, with some patients enduring horrendous experiences, while others leave without being seen;

agrees that:

- the Health Service Executive (HSE) National Winter Plan 2019-20 provides for no additional acute beds or frontline hospital staff;

- a recruitment moratorium in the health service was brought in by the then Fianna Fáil Government in 2007, two years before any other sector in the public service and the damage done by that policy is at the root of many of the problems in the health service to this day;

- emergency medicine staffing levels are below international comparators, and below the agreed safe staffing levels;

- healthcare professionals in emergency medicine are under unprecedented, unsustainable and unacceptable pressure;

- pay inequality for new entrant consultants and the failure to fully unwind the Financial Emergency Measures in Public Interests (FEMPI) for consultants has crippled the public health system and caused gross staff loss, demoralised current staff, and has left the health service with around 500 consultant vacancies across different specialties, many in emergency medicine;

- there are over 1,300 nursing and midwifery vacancies in the public health sector as a direct result of the HSE’s recruitment freeze;

- in order to deal with the shortage of staff, the health service has an over-reliance on costly agency staff, with nearly €2 billion being spent on agency staff since Fine Gael entered Government eight years ago;

- there is no funded workforce plan in place to reach agreed safe staffing levels; and

- the staffing crisis has created a severely challenging working environment, where nurses and doctors routinely work beyond their contracted hours in order to ensure patients are cared for in hospitals, at a significant physical, mental and financial cost to themselves and their families and friends;

acknowledges that:

- hospital bed occupancy rates average 97 per cent, and are 104 per cent in model 4 hospitals, compared to the recommended safe occupancy rate of 85 per cent;

- Ireland had the second lowest number of hospital beds in the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development (OECD) leading to a lower than average hospital stay, 6.2 days, compared to the OECD average of 8.2 days;

- in the past decade acute hospital in-patient bed numbers were cut when they should have been increased in line with the country’s growing and aging population;

- unions representing workers in the health service have been highlighting the issue of a chronic lack of capacity in the health service and how it contributes to hospital overcrowding for almost a decade;

- delayed discharge is significant and linked to a growing waiting list for home care support;

- delayed discharges constitute one of the biggest financial wastes of money and resources in the health service and cost the health service nearly €600 million since 2016;

- the freezing of home help hours has contributed to delayed discharges as patients who are fit to return home are left stuck in hospital with the result being that many of the 7,225 elderly people on a waiting list for home help hours are stuck in hospitals;

- there is a significant shortage of hospital beds relative to the capacity review;

- there is no definite timeline for the provision of the additional acute beds needed; and

- Fianna Fáil facilitate this Government and that the Minister for Health only holds that office because Fianna Fáil abstained in a no confidence vote in him in February of this year; and

calls for:

- a clear funded timeline for the provision of additional acute beds to meet 85 per cent occupancy levels, and for step down beds, as set out in the capacity review;

- an immediate assessment of the number of acute inpatient psychiatric beds required;

- all hospital beds closed during the austerity years to be reopened;

- increased access to diagnostics for emergency medicine;

- the implementation of the recommendations made by the Health Information and Quality Authority (HIQA) in their 2012 report;

- HIQA to investigate the impact of overcrowding on the health of people presenting to emergency departments;

- investment in co-locating general practices and acute mental health services next to emergency departments so those patients who do not need emergency department care can be treated in a more appropriate setting;

- increased investment for transitional care beds, adequate step-down facilities, home care packages, and home help hours to ensure that all patients who can be moved home, or to a more appropriate care setting, are given that opportunity;

- the speeding up of the move towards primary and community care ensuring that all primary care centres are adequately resourced with new staff and funding;

- urgent progress on achieving safe staffing levels in emergency medicine, to include: - the ending of pay disparity for consultants and the full unwinding of FEMPI for consultants;

- the ending of the de factohiring embargo for nurses, midwives, doctors and other staff across the health service;

- genuine investment in recruiting more staff to the health service, while simultaneously addressing the key issues for existing and prospective staff of working conditions, facilities, supports, training opportunities and pay;

- a funded workforce plan; and

- an overhaul of human resources practices to improve working conditions for healthcare professionals; - investment in general practitioner (GP) services, including: - funding chronic disease management;

- expansion of GP out-of-hours services; and

- appropriate access to diagnostics; - a commitment to put in place a plan for piloting salaried HSE employed GPs in both rural and urban areas; and

- the full implementation of all the recommendations in the Sláintecare Report.”

Amendment put:

The Dáil divided: Tá, 20; Níl, 88; Staon, 0.


Tellers: Tá, Deputies Aengus Ó Snodaigh and Denise Mitchell; Níl, Deputies Michael Moynihan and John Lahart.

Mick Barry, Richard Boyd Barrett, Tommy Broughan, Catherine Connolly, Ruth Coppinger, Pearse Doherty, Dessie Ellis, Michael Fitzmaurice, Séamus Healy, Gino Kenny, Martin Kenny, Catherine Martin, Denise Mitchell, Imelda Munster, Catherine Murphy, Paul Murphy, Caoimhghín Ó Caoláin, Aengus Ó Snodaigh, Thomas Pringle, Bríd Smith.

Níl

Bobby Aylward, Maria Bailey, Seán Barrett, Declan Breathnach, Colm Brophy, Richard Bruton, Peter Burke, Joan Burton, Mary Butler, Catherine Byrne, Thomas Byrne, Jackie Cahill, Dara Calleary, Seán Canney, Ciarán Cannon, Joe Carey, Shane Cassells, Michael Collins, Niall Collins, Marcella Corcoran Kennedy, Simon Coveney, Barry Cowen, Michael Creed, John Curran, Michael D'Arcy, Pat Deering, Regina Doherty, Stephen Donnelly, Paschal Donohoe, Timmy Dooley, Andrew Doyle, Bernard Durkan, Damien English, Alan Farrell, Charles Flanagan, Seán Fleming, Pat Gallagher, Noel Grealish, Brendan Griffin, Simon Harris, Michael Harty, Seán Haughey, Brendan Howlin, Heather Humphreys, Paul Kehoe, Alan Kelly, Seán Kyne, John Lahart, Michael Lowry, Marc MacSharry, Micheál Martin, Charlie McConalogue, Finian McGrath, Mattie McGrath, Michael McGrath, Joe McHugh, Tony McLoughlin, Mary Mitchell O'Connor, Aindrias Moynihan, Michael Moynihan, Margaret Murphy O'Mahony, Eugene Murphy, Denis Naughten, Hildegarde Naughton, Tom Neville, Carol Nolan, Darragh O'Brien, Jim O'Callaghan, Kate O'Connell, Willie O'Dea, Fergus O'Dowd, Kevin O'Keeffe, Fiona O'Loughlin, Frank O'Rourke, Jan O'Sullivan, Éamon Ó Cuív, Willie Penrose, John Paul Phelan, Anne Rabbitte, Michael Ring, Noel Rock, Shane Ross, Brendan Ryan, Brendan Smith, Niamh Smyth, David Stanton, Robert Troy, Katherine Zappone.

Amendment declared lost.

Motion put and declared carried.

Sitting suspended at 1.30 p.m. and resumed at 2.10 p.m.