Richard Boyd Barrett (Dún Laoghaire, People Before Profit Alliance) | Oireachtas source

Just to underline the point, in my area, a lot of mental health services are delivered by section 39 organisations. In others, they might be delivered by the HSE. We discussed earlier the difficulty of recruiting people to CAMHS teams and the CDNTs. One of the additional problems compounding that difficulty is that those section 39 workers are on lesser pay and conditions than they would be if they were doing exactly the same job in a different area working directly for the HSE. That is crazy. They are doing the same job, they have the same qualifications, they are providing the same services and meeting the same need but they are on different - worse - pay and conditions. It does not take a rocket scientist to work out how it is going to be harder to recruit people to work in those services than in areas where they have better pay and conditions. There should be complete alignment when people are delivering public services, regardless of who the service provider is.

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